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Subject: Re: kk_kup2 update - Should Crafty resign? & KNN v K mates {not=blunder}

Author: Shane Booth

Date: 17:42:25 05/06/98

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On May 06, 1998 at 15:53:25, Howard Exner wrote:

>On May 06, 1998 at 14:25:12, Danniel Corbit wrote:
>
>>On May 06, 1998 at 03:46:28, Danniel Corbit wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>>K6n/2P5/1q6/8/8/7k/8/n7 b
>>>>
>>>>White: Ka8 Pc7
>>>>Black: Kh3 Qb6 Na1 Nh8
>
>Snipped analysis.
>
>This position contains three drawing themes
>1.The stalemate if capturing the pawn
>2.The two Knight draw if the Queen exchanges itself for the pawn
>3. The KQN v KQ draw (at least in this position)
>
>Crafty and most likely all of todays programs would recognize each
>individual drawing them but probably cannot make the human leap of
>seeing them altogether in this problem. This could explain why the
>eval would remain high.

Actually, Crafty doesn't seem to know that KQNvKQ is generally a
draw and scores these positions as just below +4.  Same for other
pure piece endgames like KQBvKQ and KRBvKR (last one if you don't
have the (huge) tablebase installed).  I notice Rebel Decade 2.0
also gives a huge plus to the side with the extra piece.  However,
the old Chessmaster 4000 scores these positions below +2.  Just
add a pawn each and the evaluation jumps over +4.



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