Author: Albert Silver
Date: 06:46:22 07/26/01
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On July 26, 2001 at 09:38:21, Albert Silver wrote:
>On July 26, 2001 at 09:30:33, Oliver Roese wrote:
>
>>On July 26, 2001 at 07:07:50, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:
>>
>>>[D]4r2k/1p4p1/p1bQ3p/8/2P2P2/1P3P1P/P5K1/3Rq1N1 b - - 0 36
>>>
>>>Hi Antonio,
>>>
>>>This is a very interesting position indeed.
>>>I assume I would play 36?Re2+ here, and end up nowhere.
>>>
>>You wouldnt, since it is a forced mate after
>>36...Re2 37.Nxe2 Qxe2 38.Kg1 Qe3+
>
>but not after 38.Kg3
>
In fact 36...Re2 37.Nxe2 Qxe2 draws on both moves:
a) 38.Kg1 Qe3+ 39.Kf1 Qxf3+ 40.Ke1 Qe3+ etc.
b) 38.Kg3 Qxf3+ 40.Kh4 Qf2+ 41.Kg4 Qf3+ etc.
Albert
>
>>
>>Oliver
>>
>>
>>>The sequence after Bxf3: 37. Kxf3 Re3+ 38. Kg4 Qg3+ 39. Kf5 Kh7 is forced, I
>>>think.
>>>The basic problem is that the white queen can't move, as it has to prevent mate
>>>on g6. If you want to hold on to that extra knight, the only way to do is
>>>shuffle your pawns at the white queenside as the rest of the pieces have to sit
>>>as quiet as possible. But that *always* leads to the manoeuvre ...Qg2 and ..Qc2+
>>>
>>>I think Noonian works the same and tried to hold on to this advantage by playing
>>>40.c5, but as far as I can see the only way to prevent this manoeuvering of the
>>>queen is giving up the knight and shielding the king with the rook: 40.Rd5 and
>>>41. Re5, and the king has an extra field to hide (e6!) when black would play Qg2
>>>and Qc2+. (In that case white has an extra knigth and of course is winning).
>>>So in this case I think **40.c5?** is the culprit.
>>>
>>>After 40.Rd5 black should take back the knight with 40...Qxg1 and 41.Re5 and
>>>black has advantage, although I don't know if it's enough to win.
>>>
>>>[D]8/1p4pk/p2Q3p/4RK2/2P2P2/1P2r2P/P7/6q1 b - - 0 40
>>>
>>>J.
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