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Subject: Re: I insist: CSTAL is great but nobody seems to care... (Sinatra)

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 02:26:51 05/07/98

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On May 06, 1998 at 13:40:17, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On May 06, 1998 at 09:36:37, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>I think that it is obvioiusly good at finding active interesting moves.
>I rate this characteristic very highly.
>
>I don't think it is getting beat by brute force once it achieves
>interesting positions.  In the first game it sacrificed material and the
>sacrifice didn't work out.  You don't get a point for making your
>opponent have an ugly position, especially if you have to give material
>to get there.  Pretty early on it was apparent the black was attacking
>down three minor pieces, since it sacrificed one and it had two others
>that it never activated.  The position is dicey for Nimzo for a while,
>but eventually it activates everything and gets its own attack.
>
>In the second game, CST had a much better position than Fritz, and
>couldn't convert, but I don't think that its mistakes were mistakes made
>because the opponent had too much speed, rather it looks like it was
>trying to get too much out of the position, couldn't, and let Fritz
>consolidate.
>
>Perhaps if it were a human, and I were much better at playing chess, I
>would suggest that it didn't know when to stop attacking and start
>playing according to what was realistically in the position.
>
>Now back to my first paragraph.  Playing computer vs computer is fun,
>but most people don't buy these programs for this.
>
>When you put CST against other computers, it is going to have some
>wonderful looking games, because it plays with a very speculative style.
> If you bet on a longshot, you will sometimes win a lot of money -- CST
>will win some of these games in brilliant style.
>
>It will also do some games like these:  in the first game it speculated
>and ran out of gas, and in the second game it speculated, which worked,
>but then it kept speculating, I think, and this time it didn't work.
>
>You are going to have some others where it gets smashed, I bet.
>
>If you play against humans, it will be a different story.  I bet that it
>will score very well against its customers.  And furthermore, it will
>play in a way that they are not used to seeing, it will play with an
>attacking style, which humans are not accustomed to seeing from
>computers.  Everybody wants their computer to play attacking chess, not
>oatmeal chess.
>
>They see a lot of attacking chess from other humans, so I bet it will
>help them in their play against people, and ultimately against
>computers, as they become more willing to take risks themselves.
>
>I'm all for anything that will help the customers play chess better.
>
>bruce

Agreed.

Since acquiring Tal, I actually look forward to my games against the
computer.

It's been a long time since I've been able to say that.



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