Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 05:59:57 05/07/98
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On May 07, 1998 at 04:58:13, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >On May 06, 1998 at 22:11:58, Fernando Villegas wrote: > >>The original reason for all of us to be here was chess computers. >>However, at less you are pretty cold or /and unsociable people, sooner >>or later a second, powerful reason, becomes part of the fun: just to >>meet human beings that not only share your interest, but are intelligent >>and even witty. I don’t want to flatter any one in particular, just to >>say what is obvious to any who read all that is write here. Then, if >>you share with me that this is at least a good additional reason to >>expend some time in CCC, then maybe we shoudl give a thought to the idea >>expressed here by some poster that Chris Wittington should return here. >>I tried to remember if Chris was expelled or if he renounced or if he >>renounced to avoid being expelled, but what is important is that his >>posts and even his sarcasms were part of the richness -sometimes harsh, >>yes- if this club. Specially I miss him now that I know he has reassumed >>the work in CSTAL. I would like he was here to tell us what a heck is >>doing, in the first place. So, I support the idea of a voting decision >>about that. Some peace should prevail here, but some dose of war is good >>and Chris is a good provider of this last one...:-) Of course, if Mr >>Wittington does not want to be here, then I am telling nonsense and I am >>the kind of stupid guy that hopes a happy end even in french movies. > >Please pardon the extremely serious nature of this response, but this >topic matters to me, a great deal. > >There are plenty of arguments for telling Chris that if he wants to >register another account here, he won't be prevented from doing this, >but the entertainment value of caustic posts is an extremely poor >reason. > >I think that it is important for people to consider what kind of group >they want this to be. > >There are a lot of kinds of information we can exchange here. We can >talk about chess program technical issues, we can talk about how this or >that program fared against this or that opponent, we can talk about >games, whatever. > >We will probably also end up talking about politics, and this is going >to cause arguments, which might become pretty heated. > >There is a lot to dislike about this sort of discussion, but sometimes >some good comes out of them, so it should be OK to have this sort of >discussion. > >This kind of thing is the reason freedom of speech was invented. > >But there are other kinds of interchange that I have endured in the >past, and that I would really really like to avoid having to endure in >the future. > >For instance, malicious personal attacks. This may not bother some of >you who are reading these attacks, but as someone who has been the >target, it is not fun. > >It is also not fun for me to see people I know dragged through the mud >unfairly. > >So if the kind of group people want this to be is one where it is OK to >insult people as long as it is done in interesting fashion, then count >me out. I am not interested in being attacked, or watching my friends >be attacked, or watching people who are just simply innocent being >attacked, in order to make entertainment for others. > >I've spent a lot of time arguing with Chris about this or that. I have >come to the conclusion that I dislike him, a lot. > >I am not going to be go through months of arguing with this guy again. >Life is too short for this, I have better things to do, the arguments >are always extremely unproductive. > >So if Chris comes back and starts doing his deal again, look for a >brief, but extremely sharp, response from me, and then one of us will be >gone for good, I don't particularly care who. I don't think this is the point. If anyone posts annoying messages, moderators do their job. It should never be a matter of "me or him, you pick". We agreed about first red cards not being permanent. Getting back people that got them does not mean they are allowed to post the kind of attacks that made us show them the red card. If they want to stay, they will have to play by the rules, like all of us. "Nothing personal about it." Enrique >bruce
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