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Subject: Re: Deep Junior 7 and being left without any advice

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:45:10 07/28/01

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On July 28, 2001 at 10:42:24, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 28, 2001 at 09:10:15, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On July 28, 2001 at 08:28:40, Martin Müller wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>Full of enthusiasm I bought the promising program DJ7 hoping to have bought an
>>>outstanding, high-end product. Much to my regret I find that it does not behave
>>>as it should. It sacrifies unsound, it shows evaluations far from being
>>>realistic and has a very poor performance as far as I see from my end.
>>>
>>>It is sad, that even after such a "sprechstunde" users like me are left without
>>>any advice or hope that a patch or an update will be planned to help.
>>>
>>>I greatly appreciate the work and succes of Amir Ban and Shay Bushinsky but am
>>>at a loss to understand the present situation.
>>>
>>>Give me some hope, please.
>>>
>>>Kind regards
>>>Martin
>>
>>
>> I think this is the present character of Junior 7. The authors are working
>> in a very interesting direction, but the program is far from complete.
>> Whenever that is supposed to happen. IMO it's an experimental version and
>> just possibly, but not verfied,  more suited to play humans than computers.
>> By the way, those unsound sacrifices you mention - have you noticed this
>> in comp-comp games or in your own games vs Junior?
>>
>> Sune
>
>I do not know but it seems that the problem is with Deep Junior7 and not with
>Junior7.
>I do not believe that Junior7 was not tested in comp-comp.
>I can see in chessfun's rating list that Junior7 is better than Junior6.
>My Junior7 could not reproduce the strange evaluations of Deep Junior7 so I
>suspect that Deep Junior7 has some bugs and was not tested.

I am talking about the last game that was posted when my Junior7 did not see
kind of +0.5 evaluations against itself one move before resigning but +2 or +3
pawns against itself.

I did not test my Junior7 to compare with Deep Junior7 in a lot of positions.

Uri



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