Author: Slater Wold
Date: 19:42:39 07/29/01
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On July 29, 2001 at 21:03:11, Christophe Theron wrote: >On July 29, 2001 at 18:34:48, Slater Wold wrote: > >>When you see this during a game: >> >> >>Analysis by Deep Junior 6.0: >> >>21...Rd8 22.Bxh7+ Kxh7 23.Qh4+ Kg6 24.Qxd8 Bb7 25.Rxf7 >> +- (3.26) Depth: 6 00:00:00 5kN >>21...Re7 22.Qd6 Re8 23.Rxf7 h5 24.Qd3 >> ± (1.29) Depth: 6 00:00:00 16kN >>21...h6 22.Bc2 >> ± (0.75) Depth: 6 00:00:00 17kN >>21...h6 22.Qd3 Re7 23.Bh7+ Kh8 24.Rxf7 Rxf7 25.Rxf7 >> ± (0.97) Depth: 9 00:00:00 41kN >>21...g6 22.Rxf7 >> ± (0.75) Depth: 9 00:00:00 52kN >>21...g6 22.Rxf7 Qb3 23.Qd3 Qxd3 24.Bxd3 Ra7 25.R1f6 >> ± (1.14) Depth: 12 00:00:00 644kN >>21...Qxa3 22.Bxh7+ >> ± (0.75) Depth: 12 00:00:02 3306kN >>21...Qxa3 22.Bxh7+ >> ± (0.75) Depth: 14 00:00:02 3361kN >>21...Qxa3 22.Bxh7+ Kxh7 23.Rxf7 Bb7 24.Qh4+ Kg8 25.Rxg7+ Kxg7 26.Qf6+ Kg8 >>27.Qf7+ Kh8 28.Qxe8+ Kg7 29.Rf7+ Kh6 30.Rf6+ Kh7 >> +- (#12) Depth: 16 00:00:44 85447kN >>21...h5 22.Qd3 Bb7 23.Bxb7 Rf8 24.Bxa6 Qc6 25.Bb5 Qc5 26.Bxd7 Qxe5 27.Qd4 Qxd4 >>28.exd4 >> +- (7.58) Depth: 16 00:01:09 85447kN >>21...h6 22.Qd3 Kh8 23.Rxf7 Rg8 24.Rf8 g6 25.Bc6 Rxf8 26.Rxf8+ Kg7 27.Bxa4 Kxf8 >>28.Qxg6 >> +- (6.29) Depth: 16 00:01:23 107286kN >>21...g6 22.Rxf7 b5 23.Bd3 >> +- (6.16) Depth: 16 00:01:33 122505kN >> >>Then you've been dupped by GT 2.0. >> >>Here's the position: >>[D]2b1r1k1/3p1ppp/rp2p3/p1Q1P3/q1P1B3/P3P3/5RPP/5RK1 w - - 0 1 >> >>Just thought some would enjoy this! >> >> >>Slate > > >I fear there is a problem in your FEN. I see 22.Qd3 in the analysis, but the >white Queen cannot go to d3 on your diagram... > > > Christophe Weird. I did not even notice that. I clipped this while playing, and saved it for later. This is _EXACTLY_ what I clipped: PC - Deep Junior 6.0 2b1r1k1/3p1ppp/rp2p3/p1Q1P3/q1P1B3/P3P3/5RPP/5RK1 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Deep Junior 6.0: 21...Rd8 22.Bxh7+ Kxh7 23.Qh4+ Kg6 24.Qxd8 Bb7 25.Rxf7 +- (3.26) Depth: 6 00:00:00 5kN 21...Re7 22.Qd6 Re8 23.Rxf7 h5 24.Qd3 ± (1.29) Depth: 6 00:00:00 16kN 21...h6 22.Bc2 ± (0.75) Depth: 6 00:00:00 17kN 21...h6 22.Qd3 Re7 23.Bh7+ Kh8 24.Rxf7 Rxf7 25.Rxf7 ± (0.97) Depth: 9 00:00:00 41kN 21...g6 22.Rxf7 ± (0.75) Depth: 9 00:00:00 52kN 21...g6 22.Rxf7 Qb3 23.Qd3 Qxd3 24.Bxd3 Ra7 25.R1f6 ± (1.14) Depth: 12 00:00:00 644kN 21...Qxa3 22.Bxh7+ ± (0.75) Depth: 12 00:00:02 3306kN 21...Qxa3 22.Bxh7+ ± (0.75) Depth: 14 00:00:02 3361kN 21...Qxa3 22.Bxh7+ Kxh7 23.Rxf7 Bb7 24.Qh4+ Kg8 25.Rxg7+ Kxg7 26.Qf6+ Kg8 27.Qf7+ Kh8 28.Qxe8+ Kg7 29.Rf7+ Kh6 30.Rf6+ Kh7 +- (#12) Depth: 16 00:00:44 85447kN 21...h5 22.Qd3 Bb7 23.Bxb7 Rf8 24.Bxa6 Qc6 25.Bb5 Qc5 26.Bxd7 Qxe5 27.Qd4 Qxd4 28.exd4 +- (7.58) Depth: 16 00:01:09 85447kN 21...h6 22.Qd3 Kh8 23.Rxf7 Rg8 24.Rf8 g6 25.Bc6 Rxf8 26.Rxf8+ Kg7 27.Bxa4 Kxf8 28.Qxg6 +- (6.29) Depth: 16 00:01:23 107286kN 21...g6 22.Rxf7 b5 23.Bd3 +- (6.16) Depth: 16 00:01:33 122505kN (PC, MyTown 29.07.2001) And as you can see, 22.Qd3 is _NOT_ a legal move. I tried and tried to reproduce it though, and cannot. I even saved the entire game: PC - Deep Junior 6.0 29.07.2001 63MB, gm.ctg. CCFSERVER 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be3 Qc7 7.Be2 Bb4 1561kN/s 0.01/14 6 8.Nxc6 Bxc3+ 1350kN/s 0.11/14 1 9.bxc3 Qxc6 1520kN/s 0.11/15 11 10.Qd4 Nf6 1238kN/s 0.32/17 0 11.Bf3 0-0 1493kN/s 0.14/16 8 12.e5 Nd5 1548kN/s 0.10/15 2 13.c4 (Bxd5) 13...Nxe3 1380kN/s -0.02/16 12 14.fxe3 Qa4 591kN/s 0.13/18 0 15.0-0 Qxc2 1571kN/s 0.21/17 12 16.Be4 Qa4 1554kN/s 0.19/17 14 17.Qc5 Re8 1537kN/s 0.26/17 16 18.Rf2 a5 1479kN/s 0.34/17 20 19.a3 (Rb1) 19...Ra6 1584kN/s 0.45/16 23 20.Raf1 b6 1620kN/s 0.75/15 21 21.Qd4 Qb3 1705kN/s 5.65/15 93 22.Rxf7 (Bc2) 22...h5 1739kN/s 9.97/14 20 23.Bd3 (Bg6) 1-0 And as you can see in the analysis, it is searching move 21. And played 21...Qb3, and that doesn't even show up in it's analysis. Weird eh? Anyway, the point was, DJ analysis went from .75 for white to 5.65 for white in one move. GT 2.0 is the only program that can do this to another program......that I have ever seen. Slate PS Thanks for pointing that out Chris, I will look for that in DJ from now on. :)
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