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Subject: Re: loving the ICCA

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 16:13:44 07/30/01

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On July 30, 2001 at 17:55:54, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 30, 2001 at 17:54:15, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>the organisation for the programmers.
>>and for the interests of some people who pay good for it.
>
>I seem to be missing some context here.  Are you talking about some specific
>incident?

the word is
arbitrary.

the incident is again what ICCA calls a computer-chess-championship!

and the pattern is the usual one, a few people are more equal and others.

programmers seem to be a group of people uncapable to learn out of mistakes
and experience.

also it seems programmers are a group of people / puppets you
can do whatever you want to do without getting any complain or
problem.

this is ironic of course. my wish is that the community would save the
weaker ones for the arbitrary manouvers of the stronger ones.
which is not the case, what makes me so depressed.

i think the ICCA is dead.

chess-programmers and supporters should found an independent
organisation far from ICCA the ICCA-board.

i would call it:

I C A P S

or any other name that makes sense.

I.ndependent
C.omputerchess
A.ssociation
P.rogrammers and
S.upporters

the idea of that organisation would be to organise regularly and FAIR
world computer chess championships.

the idea would be that the championships are not in countries
where dictators get suported such as jakarta, not in countries that
offend again human rights.

the idea would be that this organisation is independent. and supports
computerchess by helping amateurs and professionals.

the organisation would give the world computer chess champion title.

the title would be outplayed in different countries of the world,
not only in some exoctic parts of the world where the board of the organisation
would like to make holiday with their wifes and girl-friends.

it would therefore also happen into the usa, so that the us-programmers
would have a chance to participate too.

the rules would NOT arbitrarily changed a few weeks before the
dead line.

and special groups within the organisation would not have strange
influence on the board, their decisions and the rules of the organisation.

everything would be elected democratically and not the way the ICCA is doing it,
by "good connections" .

finally, the flights and costs of the board of this organisations would not be
financed by exploiting the members.


and: the tournament director and the board could not arbitrarily change whatever
rule they like, they would NOT have the right to adjudicate whatever they like.
the board of the new organisation would have to follow the rules that have been
decided democratically.

critics would be welcomed in such an organisation and people who speak out
critical things or comments would not been thrown out of the organisation.

i love the icca. when i one day want to show my children how capitalism
and exploitation works, i will have a good example. also a good example for an
organisation that dies out because it has not recognized the signs and change of
the new century. a dinosaur. and the fact that it did not recognized that it has
lost evolution.









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