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Subject: Re: Is this true?

Author: Jouni Uski

Date: 03:21:10 07/31/01

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On July 31, 2001 at 05:34:30, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On July 31, 2001 at 05:19:34, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>
>>On July 31, 2001 at 05:11:57, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On July 31, 2001 at 04:35:14, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 31, 2001 at 04:04:22, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 31, 2001 at 03:34:19, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 31, 2001 at 01:17:52, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In Chessbits forum I read, that in 18th WMCCC multiprosessors are allowed and
>>>>>>>because of this Rebel, Tiger and Gandalf are NOT playing? Hope, that Crafty18.10
>>>>>>>is there!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please post a pointer to the article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know what in the hell is going on with the ICCA these days.  I try to
>>>>>>ignore all of the European computer chess intrigues, but if Chessbase got to
>>>>>>Jaap and David somehow I can't help but being very unimpressed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's: http://www.myphorum.de/forum/read.php?f=1578&i=3080&t=3075
>>>>>
>>>>>please note it's in german
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>After fiddling with AltaVista it seems that it's a post expressing concern about
>>>>rule changes, notably the multiprocessor stuff, and eventually stating that
>>>>everything associated with Ed has dropped out.
>>>>
>>>>Some of the rule changes aren't changes or don't matter.  The 1/2 of programmers
>>>>must be ICCA members is old.  The G/30 finish is terrible, but this is to be
>>>>expected when people who haven't operated a program for ten years make the
>>>>rules.  The multiprocessor thing is the big deal, obviously.
>>>>
>>>>I have mixed feelings about this.  If this was done because Chessbase called up
>>>>David and/or Jaap and explained to them that the level of competition would be
>>>>higher if they allowed these machines, and David and/or Jaap bought this, that
>>>>sucks.
>>>>
>>>>On the other (very minor) hand, there have been multiprocessor machines
>>>>available for not too much money for years, and this makes it even more apparent
>>>>that everyone needs to get with it and develop for them.
>>>>
>>>>bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>To clear things up, before the subject gets a life of its own, here is the
>>>email I send 3 days ago. The complaint is that 2 months of work are spoiled,
>>>hardware already bought and then suddenly the rules are changed without any
>>>notification. It is too bad for words.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>>=====================================================
>>>
>>>Dear Jaap and David,
>>>
>>>I hereby withdraw my previous made registration for the upcoming WMCCC
>>>Maastricht 2001 for Rebel, Chess Tiger and Gandalf.
>>>
>>>Reason: as read on the WMCCC pages the event was meant a traditional WMCCC
>>>tournament playing on one processor. When visiting the page a few days ago
>>>my eyes BY ACCIDENT saw the following:
>>>
>>>  "A multi-processor system is allowed."
>>>
>>>I have nothing against this rule however consider the following:
>>>
>>>#1. Preparation for a WCCC takes months (engine, book). As it now seems we
>>>have invested our time in THE WRONG VERSION. Instead of working on our multi-
>>>processor versions we have worked on our single versions.
>>>
>>>#2. You CAN NOT change the rules on such short terms, more you can not change
>>>the rules without notifying the participants. An email, call, fax or letter
>>>should have been appropriate as in the early days.
>>>
>>>#3. I have already invested in new single processor hardware which is now
>>>worthless as I had not bought it while knowing it was a multi-processor event.
>>>Do you understand?
>>>
>>>I sincerely hope you will judge the withdrawal of Rebel, Chess Tiger and
>>>Gandalf on its right value and change the rules back to normal.
>>>
>>>Kind regards,
>>>
>>>Ed Schroder
>>
>>Sorry to hear that you are getting shafted again Ed.
>
>
>I just hope it is not too late and that the rules are set back to normal. I
>really was looking forward to the event because I wanted to see my my latest
>brainchild in action.
>

My proposition: uniform platform! Everybody gets 1 Ghz and 512 MB and we really
get the strongest program as champion.

Jouni



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