Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 08:34:38 07/31/01
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On July 31, 2001 at 06:21:10, Jouni Uski wrote: >On July 31, 2001 at 05:34:30, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On July 31, 2001 at 05:19:34, Peter McKenzie wrote: >> >>>On July 31, 2001 at 05:11:57, Ed Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>On July 31, 2001 at 04:35:14, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 31, 2001 at 04:04:22, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 31, 2001 at 03:34:19, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On July 31, 2001 at 01:17:52, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In Chessbits forum I read, that in 18th WMCCC multiprosessors are allowed and >>>>>>>>because of this Rebel, Tiger and Gandalf are NOT playing? Hope, that Crafty18.10 >>>>>>>>is there! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Jouni >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Please post a pointer to the article. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I don't know what in the hell is going on with the ICCA these days. I try to >>>>>>>ignore all of the European computer chess intrigues, but if Chessbase got to >>>>>>>Jaap and David somehow I can't help but being very unimpressed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>bruce >>>>>> >>>>>>Here's: http://www.myphorum.de/forum/read.php?f=1578&i=3080&t=3075 >>>>>> >>>>>>please note it's in german >>>>>> >>>>>>Jouni >>>>> >>>>>After fiddling with AltaVista it seems that it's a post expressing concern about >>>>>rule changes, notably the multiprocessor stuff, and eventually stating that >>>>>everything associated with Ed has dropped out. >>>>> >>>>>Some of the rule changes aren't changes or don't matter. The 1/2 of programmers >>>>>must be ICCA members is old. The G/30 finish is terrible, but this is to be >>>>>expected when people who haven't operated a program for ten years make the >>>>>rules. The multiprocessor thing is the big deal, obviously. >>>>> >>>>>I have mixed feelings about this. If this was done because Chessbase called up >>>>>David and/or Jaap and explained to them that the level of competition would be >>>>>higher if they allowed these machines, and David and/or Jaap bought this, that >>>>>sucks. >>>>> >>>>>On the other (very minor) hand, there have been multiprocessor machines >>>>>available for not too much money for years, and this makes it even more apparent >>>>>that everyone needs to get with it and develop for them. >>>>> >>>>>bruce >>>> >>>> >>>>To clear things up, before the subject gets a life of its own, here is the >>>>email I send 3 days ago. The complaint is that 2 months of work are spoiled, >>>>hardware already bought and then suddenly the rules are changed without any >>>>notification. It is too bad for words. >>>> >>>>Ed >>>> >>>>===================================================== >>>> >>>>Dear Jaap and David, >>>> >>>>I hereby withdraw my previous made registration for the upcoming WMCCC >>>>Maastricht 2001 for Rebel, Chess Tiger and Gandalf. >>>> >>>>Reason: as read on the WMCCC pages the event was meant a traditional WMCCC >>>>tournament playing on one processor. When visiting the page a few days ago >>>>my eyes BY ACCIDENT saw the following: >>>> >>>> "A multi-processor system is allowed." >>>> >>>>I have nothing against this rule however consider the following: >>>> >>>>#1. Preparation for a WCCC takes months (engine, book). As it now seems we >>>>have invested our time in THE WRONG VERSION. Instead of working on our multi- >>>>processor versions we have worked on our single versions. >>>> >>>>#2. You CAN NOT change the rules on such short terms, more you can not change >>>>the rules without notifying the participants. An email, call, fax or letter >>>>should have been appropriate as in the early days. >>>> >>>>#3. I have already invested in new single processor hardware which is now >>>>worthless as I had not bought it while knowing it was a multi-processor event. >>>>Do you understand? >>>> >>>>I sincerely hope you will judge the withdrawal of Rebel, Chess Tiger and >>>>Gandalf on its right value and change the rules back to normal. >>>> >>>>Kind regards, >>>> >>>>Ed Schroder >>> >>>Sorry to hear that you are getting shafted again Ed. >> >> >>I just hope it is not too late and that the rules are set back to normal. I >>really was looking forward to the event because I wanted to see my my latest >>brainchild in action. >> > >My proposition: uniform platform! Everybody gets 1 Ghz and 512 MB and we really >get the strongest program as champion. > >Jouni I will happily support this for this tournament if you pay me $2300. bruce
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