Author: odell hall
Date: 10:46:22 07/31/01
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On July 31, 2001 at 08:33:20, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 31, 2001 at 07:01:15, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 31, 2001 at 03:23:47, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On July 31, 2001 at 02:59:10, Joshua Lee wrote: >>> >>>>Is it possible to use the VIA 800Mhz chips which don't require a fan (i think) >>>>in parallel to where any program now could outsearch any Deep Blue of the past? >>>> >>>>It might take a few thousand chips but if it looks deeper it should mostly be >>>>better. >>>> >>>>I do know that there were supposed to be hundreds of parameters so i would bet >>>>it is better positionally than most comps now >>> >>> >>>??? >>> >>>What they call a "parameter" is for example the value of a white rook on A1. >>>There are 6 piece types, 2 sides, and 64 squares. That makes already 768 >>>parameters. >>> >>>Hey I've got thousands of parameters in Tiger then! >>> >>>They were better in search, that's for sure, because of their processing power. >>> >>>Better in evaluation? That remains to be proved. >> >>Better in search? >>It also remains to be proved. >> >>More nodes per second does not mean better in search because other programs may >>have better search rules. >> >>I believe they were inferior in evaluation. >>The size of the evaluation function is not the important thing. >>The important things is to get the right numbers in the evaluation function. >> >>If you have wrong tables the fact that you have big tables is not going to help >>you. >> >>Uri > > >If their evaluation numbers were so wrong, and their search was so weak, _I_ >for one wish I could make those same mistakes. What other program has come >close to beating a current world champion in a match? Particularly when it >was obvious that Kasparov wasn't "playing for a draw in any game What Modern program has had the opportunity to run on the Hardware that Deepblue ran on?? I do not think that Deepblue's results are indicative of how smart it was, but that it had a a huge billion Dollar company that could afford the machinery to make deepblue shine, I think Chrisopher with Chess Tiger, was as succesfull on the puny pen 3 866 as deepblue, that is something much more impressive, It's not so much that the designers of Deepblue are so Brilliant, but had the money to back them up, I wonder how Ed shroeder or Christopher would do if they had the kind of financial backing that the programmers of Deep Blue had ? I guarentee kasparov would not even have Won a Game!!!!!!!
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