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Subject: Re: A new Deep Blue ?

Author: Joshua Lee

Date: 12:10:47 07/31/01

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>If their evaluation numbers were so wrong, and their search was so weak, _I_
>for one wish I could make those same mistakes.  What other program has come
>close to beating a current world champion in a match?  Particularly when it
>was obvious that Kasparov wasn't "playing for a draw in any game."\


Since Deep Blue isn't around playing games these days the only "Real"
Competition That is on the level of DeepThought or Blue would be Cray Blitz.
How does CB compare to the Deep's? I know DT could be searching 10Ply find a
move but a regular Fritz might take 20+ ply I am guessing that CB is closer to
the Deep's than your average program ...  What kind of differences between Cray
and Commercials are there in eval "IF"  that's a BIG "IF" eval is the main
difference between the two. Same goes for Deep Blue some think Deep Fritz is as
good if not better if running at 200Mnps but i can only listen to all the sides
and look at the evidence which Deep Fritz is better if you look at the logs
...... I can't agree with this as the logs are weird and Amir Ban couldn't make
any sense of them

Not to be a conspiracy theorist but If IBM said they didn't have the logs (for
Kasparov) then they come up with logs how can we know that they weren't created
or doctored???

The only way to really know is to Play against it or know how it ticks and i
don't know if Hsu is going to ever tell but i bet that Kramnik will hear from
IBM after he smokes Deep Fritz (I think he's gonna start smoking again)



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