Author: Miguel A. Ballicora
Date: 14:26:54 07/31/01
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On July 31, 2001 at 12:44:24, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 31, 2001 at 10:38:39, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On July 30, 2001 at 18:33:50, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>>On July 30, 2001 at 18:05:56, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>I believe that it is also possible to beat grandmasterrs by lines like 1.d4 h5 >>>>2.e4 e5 with black if you try enough games. >>>>Does it mean that they do not "play chess". >>>> >>>>Uri >> >>I doubt you would beat any GM by playing h5 after d4, unless he fell over >>dead, laughing so hard... >> >>This is exploiting a known hole in an engine's understanding, and then doing >>it over and over. Forget that nonsense with a GM. > >It may be interesting to do a mtach between the best chess program of 2010 and >GM's from the position after the moves 1.d4 h5 > >I believe that the program has good chances to win the match. This has not been the point, the point is that somebody that is not even an FM can eventually beat a program with 1.d4 f5. Can somebody of that level beat a GM in those conditions? No way. That is showing the weakness of the program, hidden very well by an opening book. Regards, Miguel > >The position after 1.d4 h5 is not good for black but winning with white is not >easy from that position and if black plays well later then the GM may make >mistakes when black can improve slowly it's position in order to win in the >endgame. > >I think that it may be interesting to give chess programs to play in fide events >when the programs start the game in bad positions(for example it is interesting >to know what is the rating that programs can get when they start with white >without Nb1. > >Humans are never going to be afraid that computers are going to get the first >place in strong tournaments under these conditions so I see no reason not to >allow programs to play at least under these conditions. > >note that I do not believe that programs can get 2400 or even 2300 without a >knight and I guess the rating of today's programs is going to be lower than 2200 >but I believe that they have chances to get fide rating of more than 2000 >without a knight. > >I guess that if you start games after the moves 1.d4 h5 computers are going to >get rating of clearly more than 2300 and they are going to have chances against >GM's. > >The GM's can get more than 50% against computers better at these conditions but >it does not mean that it is impossible to beat them under these conditions at >least 1 game out of 100. > >Uri
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