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Subject: Re: Mr. Morsch viewpoint on the differences between Deep Blue and Deep Fritz

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 03:21:32 08/01/01

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On August 01, 2001 at 02:01:45, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 01, 2001 at 01:44:33, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On August 01, 2001 at 01:40:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On July 31, 2001 at 18:49:37, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 31, 2001 at 18:36:53, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>><snip>
>>>>>Franz Morsch saying the main difference between this version of Fritz compared
>>>>>to its predecessors did not lie so much in greater chess knowledge but more due
>>>>>to the machines newfound ability to deal with anti-computer chess strategy, and
>>>>>to learn from its mistakes. He also said that he believed that this incarnation
>>>>>of Fritz is every bit as strong as the Deep Blue II that defeated Kasparov and
>>>>>has far greater "chess knowledge".
>>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>For a machine with many thousands of tunable chess parameters, carefully
>>>>adjusted by teams of programmers and GM's
>>>
>>>
>>>carefully adjusted by programmers and GM's?
>>>I doubt it.
>>
>>The programmers first used a gradient method, which was based upon thousands of
>>GM games.  Then, individual parameters were hand-tuned by the GM's advice.
>
>I doubt if using GM's games to adjust the evaluation is a good idea.
>I also doubt if GM's advise for parameters is a good idea because I believe that
>the GM's do not think in the numbers of computers in games.
>
>The GM's have not time to calculate evaluation in the computer way and I do not
>think the advantage of GM's against computer is because of a better static
>evaluation.
>
>The advantage of humans against computers is their ability to think and change
>their evaluation during the game and the ability to plan that is not about
>evaluation.
>
>Uri

I think that the biggest advantage of humans over computers is that their
"selective search" is a lot better.
José.



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