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Subject: Re: Moderation: Troll

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 16:46:00 08/02/01

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On August 02, 2001 at 14:23:36, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On August 02, 2001 at 11:45:14, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>
>>Bruce, I do not understand why you would come close to delete this post and let
>>all of the bad language and profanity go on here from time to time. I have a
>>Grandson who is very interested in chess and the programs. I would give him this
>>forum except for the language.
>>I agree with you that this post should have been deleted. It is deflamatory.
>>Wayne
>
>This place was founded by people who were fed up with internet lunatics.  I
>don't know if you've ever dealt with an internet lunatic, but it is very
>difficult.
>
>There was a guy on a usenet group (not the chess group), who liked to
>impersonate people.  You'd write a post that this guy didn't like, and the next
>day there'd be something in there, apparently from you, explaining how you'd
>like to kill some Jews or molest a kid.
>
>Once when the guy did this to me, I received a threat from another poster who
>declared that I didn't deserve to live.  The guy also wrote a post ostensibly
>from me where "I" tried to hire someone to kill him.
>
>I ended up calling the police and FBI a few times, and once I had a cop in my
>house while I printed out a bunch of stuff for him.  I also did the lawyer thing
>for a while.
>
>The situation in the computer chess usenet group was never this bad (for me),
>but it was bad enough that we migrated here.  This place exists primarily in
>order to provide members recourse against internet lunatics.  If someone calls
>you nasty names here, to the point where you'd ordinarily start pestering the
>guy's ISP and running up against that brick wall, you can send an email to a
>moderator and we'll get rid of the idiot.  Maybe not at the point where you are
>first bothered by him, but we don't allow stalkers here and eventually they go
>bye bye.
>
>Notice that I've said nothing about profanity.  This place wasn't founded to get
>rid of profanity.  There is nothing in the charter about profanity.  I believe
>that the founders considered this, and we decided that we didn't care to make a
>"no profanity" rule.
>
>Personally, I think that that there wouldn't be much here for kids, anyway.
>
>If a moderator tries to put severe limits on profanity, I think that a lot of
>people who read the group will get pretty upset, because this isn't covered by
>the charter, and because it will lead to a big nationalistic discussion between
>people who are in a place where profanity is supposedly welcomed in ordinary
>conversation between people of all ages and genders, and others who do not want
>to see it.
>
>However, any moderator candidate is welcome to run on such a platform, and if
>the "no profanity" faction is strong enough we might see a ban on it.  I assume
>that it's also possible for the membership to "guide" the moderators by having a
>poll on the topic or something.  If a majority don't want it here, I wouldn't
>have a problem enforcing a "no profanity" rule.
>
>When the heck is this term up, by the way?  Isn't it about time that someone
>else does this job?
>
>bruce

Thank you,

Wayne



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