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Subject: Re: 3fold repetition, ep squares and EGTBs

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 18:39:32 08/03/01

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On August 03, 2001 at 17:28:09, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On August 03, 2001 at 16:57:06, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:
>
>>those dxe3 is possible. I do not remember the exact wording but the spirit of
>>the rules were that the 3 positions should be "photographically" and
>>"dynamically" identical.
>
>Miguel, thanks for confirming my interpretation of the chess rules in this case.
>I can add, that I really like your formulation about "photographically" and
>"dynamically".

That is the way Oscar Panno explained it to us, a group of 12 year old kids,
some time ago... I stole the words. Not only his chess, but also his logic was
always crystal clear.

>>[...] Even worse, I follow the silly
>>FEN convention about the ep squares
>
>I totally agree with you. It doesn't make any sense at all to me. To the
>contrary, it may inspire subtle bugs ...

I have this in my program because when I started I thought I could write a PGN
reader. I am going to get rid of it.

>
>>Maybe it is not very expensive to put the correct hash signature after you
>>"play" the move and write it down on the score sheet
>
>Yep. I have already (almost) implemented exactly as you suggest.

Another thought: during the search, not doing it correctly will cause that
the first repetition (2nd position) to be considered as the first occurrence.
I figure that this is not that "terrible" because if a program finds that
repeating is the best option, it will find that it is also the best some
(few?)plies later, finding the draw eventually. It will only delay the detection
of the draw in this particular branch, which happens rarely.
In other words, I figure that saving the right signature once the move has been
played will avoid the most serious problems. Another thing for my to-do list
that is already enormous!

Regards,
Miguel



>
>Regards,
>Dieter



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