Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 07:00:40 08/04/01
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On August 04, 2001 at 04:58:54, Tony Werten wrote: >On August 04, 2001 at 03:26:07, Johan Havegheer wrote: > >>On August 03, 2001 at 17:38:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On August 03, 2001 at 13:25:10, Frank Schneider wrote: >>> >>>>On August 03, 2001 at 13:17:10, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 03, 2001 at 12:54:06, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 03, 2001 at 11:24:56, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>The original situation was terrible. I can find fault with the original >>>>>>>compromise decision, but it was made under pressure and didn't cause a lot of >>>>>>>damage, so I think it's okay. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Some of the other stuff would have been bad. Multiple entrants per team would >>>>>>>have been bad. Imagine the kind of stuff that would been said in here if round >>>>>>>one is Fritz versus Fritz, Junior versus Junior, and Shredder versus Shredder, >>>>>>>and in order to win you have to play Junior twice and Shredder twice and Fritz >>>>>>>twice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>bruce >>>>>> >>>>>>Multiple entrants per team make sense only if there are 2 tournaments when >>>>>>microcomputer should be allowed to play in both competition only if the team of >>>>>>the micro does not have a multi version. >>>>>> >>>>>>In this case Fritz versus Fritz cannot happen because the 2 Fritz's are going to >>>>>>play in different torunaments. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>>If I understand properly, there aren't two tournaments. There is one tournament >>>>>with two titles, so there is one Fritz. >>>> >>>>What about amateur-titles? Will there also be two of them? >>>> >>>>Frank >>>> >>>>> >>>>>The only question now is whether anyone will show up with a multi-processor >>>>>machine, since the single-processor title is more desirable. >>>>> >>>>>bruce >>> >>>I assume not. >>> >>>Would make sense. Ed didn't complain about amateur title and amateurs >>>who do not pay $1000 entry fee for 2 programs (tiger + rebel) have less >>>to say, as historically has been proven. >>> >>>Anyway it's good that David made this deal. Keeping the participants >>>inside the tournament, especially if it's Rebel + Tiger, that's always >>>better as getting them outside. >>> >>>Nevertheless i doubt the argumentation from Ed that he was making his >>>DOS program parallel. >>> >>>Now what we miss in this tournament is publicity. Only 15 participants >>>or something like that. I of course added junior to that already, >>>as those are always late to sign in and there wasn't a clear statement >>>yet they are not going to join AFAIK. >>> >>>No dude in Netherlands knows there is a world champs computerchess >>>in august in Maastricht. It wasn't even announced in the 2 monthly >>>chess magazine. Would be amazed if there is a report in it about it >>>anyway. >> >>The other problem is that the CSVN (Dutch computer chess association) hasn't >>released their june number yet. They have problems finding a new chief editor >>for their magazine 'COMPUTERSCHAAK'. I don't see many dutch programs on the >>list. > >I do. I count at least 6. (I'll leave the wich one question for homework) > >>No King, Arthur , Kallisto ???? > >None of them were present last year either. > >Tony considering in total there are 14 entries, so any idiot can enter right now, then 6 is a very small number considering there are more dutch chessprograms than there are US or French chessprograms. If i remember well in 1997 in Paris some real weak programs joined there, but the playing hall was completely filled with programs. Now we have only FOURTEEN entries. If junior + crafty join then that's getting SIXTEEN entries. For a world championship this is a big shame!!!!! Of course the programs that do join, are not coincidental programs which all progress hard, with 1 exception, but that already was strong and has a world title. >> >>Johan
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