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Subject: Re: Why is this so much fun?

Author: Pekka Karjalainen

Date: 06:16:46 08/05/01

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On August 05, 2001 at 08:28:40, Otello Gnaramori wrote:

[I wrote this:]
>>>great equalizer in a sense, especially if it is affordable by a man on the
>>>street.  Even if you are a GM, is it such a big deal anymore if a top of the
>>>line PC can be a GM too?  (FWIW, yes, I think it still will be.  What do you
>>>think?)
>>
>>Yes , I think that "equalizing" component is also involved, and probably there
>>is also the desire to debunk chess as an "intelligent" game since also stupid
>>machines can play it at those high levels : a good excuse for the game patzers
>>(me too).

  I was thinking along these lines:

  Becoming a GM requires talent and great effort.  It is not an achievement for
a human that is not going to be rendered worthless by the fact that computers
may be capable of it too.

  Whether it is a worthwhile goal or a wise career choice is a different issue.
For some people it is, considering the money involved in the top-level matches.
I can only wish I could get 1M$ for anything I can do better than a computer :-)
:-)

>
>I realize I didn't answer to your main question. I try to answer with some
>quotes from Binet and Tarrasch since I think that to play chess at highest
>levels requires especially a sort of mnemonic virtuosity, it is also called
>"eidetics memory" :
>
>Alfred Binet says of mnemonic virtuosity in blindfold chess, quoting Tarrasch
>"some part of every chess game is played blindfold, any combination of five
>moves is played in one's head." also Tarrasch "the sight of the chessboard
>frequently destroys one's calculations".

  This is interesting.  Perhaps a more appropriate topic for the CTF forum.  I'm
sorry to say that I cannot really follow-up on this conversation for now, so
I'll have to let the opportunity to pass.

>
>I can give you a recent example of a young chess prodigy, Pavel Ponkratov , 13
>years old , that has recently won a blindfold simul against 8 players.
>The link to follow is :
>
>http://www.bielchessfestival.ch/cgi-local/turnier.pl?kat=blind_simultan&sprache=1
>
>I think that to be able to play a "blindfold game" at that level is the most
>relevant talent in chess and the prerequisite to become a GM.

  Thanks for the URL.  These talented prodigies are interesting and impressive.
So is Korchnoi at 70, too!

I wonder whether my inability to play blindfold (well, I think I could mate with
K+R against king blindfold or something similarly easy) is because I just
haven't got what it takes to be a GM, or could I possibly learn to do it.  And
would that help me become a better chess player?

  In other words, is blindfold play an ability that one just picks up after
improving at chess to a certain level, or is it something you can practice and
consequently get at least a little better at chess.

  There is a lot we just don't know about the human brain, and studying how
people learn chess can help with that too.  I would like to ask, where did you
get that Binet quote?

  Pekka



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