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Subject: Re: ELO VS. USCF RATINGS

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 16:31:29 05/10/98

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On May 08, 1998 at 22:34:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 08, 1998 at 13:41:51, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On May 08, 1998 at 10:28:53, Terry Presgrove wrote:
>>
>>> Would someone please explain the  aproximate rating
>>> differential between ELO and USCF ?
>>
>>Hi:
>>It seems the differential does nor run along an straight line, but on a
>>curve. At the high end of it both lines -or curves-tend to aproximate,
>>so some learned people say. In the middle class rating section, it seem
>>the difference is like 100 points, that is, USCF rating is inflated in
>>100 points compared with the equeivalent in strnght of ELo rating list.
>>A 2400 player would be no more than a 2300 in Elo, but who knows...
>
>Ken Sloan posted a detailed analysis of this about a year ago in
>r.c.c.c,
>where he compared several hundred players with both FIDE and USCF
>ratings.
>
>For a linear fit, USCF=FIDE+50.
>
>But it is not a linear equation, unfortunately.  But that is a close
>approximation, particularly at 2300 and up...

I get a lot of matches from unregistered guests. In fact just as much as
i get registered matchrequests. I sometimes get bored that so many of
these requests are guests who like to play with their program against
me,
as i'm having put in my notes that i have myself a chessprogram, they
seem
to confuse that with that i'm playing with a program at my Diepeveen
account (how smart people are!), which is not the case. Diep's running
under DiepX, JudgeTurpin (Bradley Woodward) or DoctorWho (Lonnie Cook).

Note that i know within few games whether my opponent comes from
Europe/Russia or the rest of the world (mainly USA).

When a player comes from the Netherlands i find this out also very very
soon, usually because he plays so tough.

Even easier to recognize are guests who are using a program.
Harder to see is the difference what program they use, because
if i know this, then usually i beat them, where the first game that i
play
against these guests i of course lose, because i don't know that they
play with a program, and go into tactics or open a file, and lose
without
a chance.

The third or fourth game i start playing the Naarden anti-computer
opening  (close the centre and prevent opening files by playing
1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.c4,Nf6 4.Nc3,.. 5. g3  6. Bg2  7. h3  8. d3 9. O-O
10. Kh2 and then soon f4 and g4, where g4 is mainly to prevent f7f5!),
and then within 14 moves i sometimes even manage to know
what category of program i'm playing (fritz/Nimzo/crafty/gnuchess
or Rebel/Mcpro/The King).

Vincent



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