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Subject: Re: Spoke to soon <s>

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:21:01 08/10/01

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On August 10, 2001 at 16:37:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 10, 2001 at 14:37:50, Les Fernandez wrote:
>
>>On August 10, 2001 at 12:47:01, Shep wrote:
>>
>>>On August 10, 2001 at 08:03:37, Les Fernandez wrote:
>>>>Strictly from a speed point of view the above computer is approxiamtely 50,000
>>>>times faster then the hardware that was used in the Deeper Blue hardware!
>>>
>>>Sorry Les, but this is utterly wrong.
>>>
>>>Deeper Blue had a speed of 200 - 1,000 million _nodes_per_second_ in chess.
>>>This is something completely different from saying it had 0.2 - 1 billion
>>>instructions per second.
>>>
>>>Your calculation would be right if "node" == "instruction", but no computer (not
>>>even a highly specialized one as DB) can examine one node in one instruction.
>>>
>>>---
>>>Shep
>>
>>Yes Shep you are correct, my statement would only be true if node=intruction.
>>While we are on the subject how many instructions was Deeper Blue's hardware
>>able to do? Just curious.
>>
>>Thx
>>
>>Les
>
>Oh well see it as this: if you equip all those SP processors with
>hardware deep blue processors it would be of course
>
>#processors SP  / 32   times faster.
>
>so for 3200 at once usuable processors it would be for nodes a second
>faster: 3200 / 32 = 100 times.
>
>However that's in nodes a second. Not in practical speedup.
>
>With a branching factor of 10.0 or something which DB had, that would
>be 2 ply extra or so.


DB didn't have a branching factor of 10 or so.  It was less than 4 in most
cases.  Just look at the log files.  I did and posted the results here a year
or so ago.

<4 was not bad at all.  Not as good as null-move programs, but not bad...



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