Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:17:25 08/13/01
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On August 13, 2001 at 05:33:10, Oliver Roese wrote:
>On August 11, 2001 at 22:16:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 11, 2001 at 11:26:31, Oliver Roese wrote:
>>
>>>On August 09, 2001 at 12:06:45, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 09, 2001 at 05:25:37, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Here's the link:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1480000/1480365.stm
>>>>>
>>>>>Seems the brain magnetic resonance scanning confirms what we've all suspected -
>>>>>that GMs tend to use their memory, wheras weak players have to do it by
>>>>>calculation (the chess computer method).
>>>>>
>>>>>The number of patterns a GM is said to be familiar with seems to have
>>>>>mysteriously risen from 50,000 ("Chess Skill In Man And Machine") to 100,000 -
>>>>>any idea how that happened, anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>>-g
>>>>
>>>>It is not clear to me what a "pattern" is, as long as it is not clearly defined
>>>>the number of patterns can be any number you want.
>>>>José.
>>>
>>>Good point.
>>>Those patterns probably exists just as dreams of some (bad?) scientists.
>>>Nevertheless if there is something out there who knows how to identify and
>>>count these patterns, please tell us about them.
>>>
>>>Oliver
>>
>>
>>The "patterns" are not "dreams". Just read the book by De Groot. It gives some
>>good examples into this. It doesn't explain "how" humans match patterns, but it
>>definitely shows that they do.
>
>Thanks for your hint.
>I assume this is, what you were talking about:
>Adriaan D. de Groot
>Thought and Choice in Chess
>, Mouton, 1978.
>
>Oliver
Yes. The discussion about GM vs novice players recalling random vs real
positions is an interesting thing to read.
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