Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:55:33 08/13/01
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On August 13, 2001 at 21:42:20, Manuel Rodriguez Blanco wrote: >Hi, i had read a lot messages about K-F match and had see some wrong statement. >i want from my humble point of viw give some clarify. > >1) Krammnik HAVE access to fritz 7 in a 8 1GH procesors machine. Do you know >how?? Of course, you can only put fritz 7 in 1 procesors machine and simpli >give more time to fritz 7 until its hit the sames nps it hit in 8-BOX, you can >ask how much time? there are siples express that can level 2 computers with >diferent procesors power. its not? This is correct. Probably giving a single-cpu version 5X longer to think would be a very good approximation of the 8-way box. My tests on an 8-way box showed a more significant degradation of the memory system, because 8 cpus want a lot of memory bandwidth, and there isn't much there to support that many processors. 4-way boxes already exhibit memory bottlenecks. > >2) Chessbase have a win-win situacion, Chessbase will win if fritz win 1 game, >CB will win if fritz draw 1 game, CB will win if fritz loose all the games. I'm not sure about that. Someone is going to lose a bunch of money somewhere. And after they are hyping this machine as better than deep blue, if it gets whacked someone is going to look super-foolish. > >3) Deep Fritz 7 is a very strong program, i am sure it can give a good fight to >krammnik, inclusive have chances to draw or win the match BUT a level match >where krammnik dont know its oponnent. I am a 2050-2150 player in ICC and i can >beat fritz in a Atlon ThunderBird 1.333 GH with 128MBRAM, but only after a >studiying its openging and playing a lot of practices games, but you get the >picture, i can prepare against Fritz (2600+) and get a result of 2400+ player >when i only have 2150. i can not imagine what krammnik will do to the poor >dissected Fritz (Note that the advantage of having the version of fritz 2 month >before hands is siple TOO BIG, VASTLY BIG. I agree. It is a ridiculous stipulation. > >4) The guys at ChessBase know all this, but they want the match at all cost >becasue they have a great win inclusive if Fritz loose because, Fritz loose, yes >but loose against the WORLD CHAMPION, the best chess player of the planet!!!, >good for fritz no? From that perspective, yes. But unfortunately for them, they have let the hyperbole get out of control. And since DB beat Kasparov, and Fritz is better than Deep Blue, Fritz had better either beat Kramnik or put up a near- win. Otherwise, the hyperbole is going to be seen for what it really is, and someone is going to get embarassed. > >5) The guys a Chessbase says that fritz have chances and they are intelligent >persons. > Of course they are intellinget, but put in his shoes for a moment: you know >the fritz dont have chances then you will go out and say fritz will not win and >boycott a match of US$3,000,000 dolares??, of course not, they are intelligent > Kramnik is the intelligent one here. He gets over 1/2 million dollars if he loses every game. I'd take those odds. :) > >5) Real Chances of Fritz win: Fritz win the match: 1%, fritz will get 1 or 2 >draws with white pieces, maybe win 1 game because a mistake of confident >krammnik in state where he have a comfortable advangate in the match. Other >possibility is a malaise of conscienceis from krammnik because he dont want >people see how easy he pick up a litle less than US$3,000,000 dolares, then >maybe he give some points to his computer opponent. > > >Note i am always the side of computer chess programs, but this time i most >succumb to the reality that ChessBase TRANSFORM a beutiful match, a real match >between K-F IN PUBLICITY JOKE (When chessbase agree to give the same version of >fritz to K.) > >There are others point of this match i like talk about, but this are the most >important, > > > >MRB.
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