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Subject: Re: Is computer chess getting boring or is it just me ??

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 11:19:56 08/14/01

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On August 14, 2001 at 13:40:53, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On August 14, 2001 at 13:30:27, ERIQ wrote:
>
>>If asked ten years ago I would have said no computer chess is very exciting.
>>
>>But what about now, comps are better than almost everyone at the game their is
>>no more tension or suspense the only question now is how many moves will the
>>human play before he loses.
>
>Then find a worthy opponent.  If no human can match the machine, then match
>machine against machine.  BTW, I think you are vastly overestimating how strong
>computers are.  But time will tell.  Probably they are at GM strength now, when
>running on exceptional hardware.  But Deep Blue type performances are not the
>norm yet.
>
>>I think now all questions about how strong they are (title or not) have been
>>answered already.
>
>Not remotely.
>

Computers are in some cases far from Gm strenght
If this was not the case how can you explain the epd files then
Or look at positional sacrefices which are played by Gm's
It mostly takes a while before the program finds the compensation and then it is
to late.
I actualy tell this because i am working on the positions from the book
sacrefices from Vucovic it is in dutch and is called offers
>>Hardware has grown to the point that for less that $2000
>>anyone can have a duel system over 800mhz. I never thought that I would see this
>>happen or say this but what do we do now ??
>
>Keep moving forward.  If it bores you, go find something that interests you
>instead.  How can anyone be bored by excellence?  It's mediocrity that I find
>boring.

Computers are in some cases far from GM strenght
How can you otherwise explain the usage of epd files.

I am telling this because I am curently overlooking the positions from the book
offers (sacrefices) from Vucovic
It takes quite some while before the programs find the compensation and then it
is to late.
At the moment computer programs do find these sacrefices they realy are from GM
strenght
Most of the time it is so  that these sacrefices do increase the development and
most of all which is important for programs the valeu of the advantage.
Which over comes many draws.

Then again when this is acomplished programs realy become unbeatable for humans
Aslong as you overcome the problem of pre knowledge.



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