Author: Peter Berger
Date: 13:22:07 08/14/01
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On August 14, 2001 at 16:10:57, Roy Eassa wrote: >On August 14, 2001 at 15:51:03, David Dahlem wrote: > >>On August 14, 2001 at 15:45:18, David Dahlem wrote: >> >>>On August 14, 2001 at 15:00:46, Roy Eassa wrote: >>> >>>>On August 14, 2001 at 02:20:06, pavel wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am very much interested on this topic, but you guys are using a foriegn >>>>>language which I cant undertand. I think its a good idea to write in both >>>>>language (like dieter did), or preferably write in english so that others who >>>>>donts speak this language understand. >>>> >>>>German is a major language for computer chess. >>>> >>>>OT: >>>> >>>>I hope that, if I learn German, I hope do a better job than President Kennedy >>>>did when he stated for history, "I am a jelly doughnut!". (I understand that's >>>>what he actually said in German, translated into English, when he intended to >>>>say, "I am a Berliner!".) >>> >>>According to the Systran translator at http://translator.go.com/ "jelly >>>doughnut" translated from english to german is "Geleekrapfen". I don't think >>>this is what President Kennedy said. >>> >>>Dave >> >>What President Kennedy really said was "ich bin ein berliner". >> > >Exactly. And what I've heard, several times from several unrelated sources, is >that he should have left out the "ein", because with that extra word in there it >means, "I am a jelly doughnut"! Rest assured no Berlin citizen would have understood it like this. People who live in Berlin are called "Berliner" in German . So "Ich bin ein Berliner" will be understood correctly by any German citizen. In some parts of Germany a jelly doughnut ( although that's actually something completely different anyway but I get the idea ) is called "Berliner", too . But not in Berlin ! :-) - if you try to order a Berliner here you'll only get puzzled looks but not something even closely related to a jelly doughnut :-) It seems John F. Kennedy knew a lot about German internals ;-) Cheers. pete
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