Author: Chessfun
Date: 14:52:55 08/14/01
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On August 14, 2001 at 17:11:46, John Merlino wrote:
>On August 14, 2001 at 14:28:38, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On August 14, 2001 at 14:14:38, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>
>>>On August 14, 2001 at 13:09:49, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 13, 2001 at 15:05:02, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Thank you for playing such a lot of games and this comparison. But what I am
>>>>>much more interested in is to have games of CM_Fun against other top programs
>>>>>with a sufficient number of games on a playing level 40/40' or higher.
>>>>
>>>>IMO it makes no difference if the engines are all kings.
>>>>As the parameters are totally different and Fun has such different material
>>>>values It seems to me that beating a CM engine or personality is the same as
>>>>beating another commercial engine.
>>>>
>>>>I have started playing with the exact same parameters and against
>>>>the same engines as you played. I will also add Junior 7 and Deep Fritz.
>>>>I will play 10 games against each engine.
>>>>
>>>>Engine-Engine Matches under CB-GUI
>>>>ponder=off / time control 40/40' / 32 MB hash each
>>>>Playing on two Thunderbird 945 mhz.
>>>>
>>>>Current;
>>>>CM_Fun v Deep Fritz W1 L0 =0
>>>>Game two looks also like Fun will win at move 60. +1.50
>>>>Deep seemed to miss something at move 54.+0.56 55.-0.91
>>>>I will post this game later, then complete all matches.
>>>>
>>>>CM_Fun v Hiarcs 7.32 W2 L0 =0
>>>>
>>>>[Client2Server]
>>>>; TheKing 3.12 CM_Fun with Nz7book.ctg
>>>>xboard := xboard\npost\nnew\ncm_parm default\ncm_parm opk=392439 tts=33554432
>>>>opp=100 opn=100 opb=100 opr=100 opq=100 myp=114 myn=138 myb=138 myr=125 myq=138
>>>>cc=100 mob=105 ks=134 pp=105 pw=125 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=5 rnd=0 sel=12 md=99\n
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>> Do you really have different values for own and opp pieces?
>>> If the above values are correct - why?
>>>
>>> Sune
>>
>>Actually no as during set up the creation of the log file
>>created both op and my as the same. I typed in manually 100
>>here as I posted it. This is the same as Kurt's and I simply wanted
>>to avoid the confusion.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>According to the personality you gave me, the piece values are:
>
>Queen = 12, Rook = 6, Bishop = 4, Knight = 4, Pawn = 1.1
>
>And they are identical for own and opp. Is this not correct? Am I confused? Or
>is it possible that the confusion is coming from the values that are displayed
>in the CM GUI might not be the same values that are actually sent to The King
>engine?
>
>jm
Hi John,
That looks right (see below) translating them for use in CB gui
gives different values, why this is so I have no clue. But it's the same
for all personalities. I assume it's some multiple of the default.
; TheKing 3.12 CM_Fun with Nz7book.ctg
xboard := xboard\npost\nnew\ncm_parm default\ncm_parm opk=392439 tts=33554432
opp=114 opn=138 opb=138 opr=125 opq=138 myp=114 myn=138 myb=138 myr=125 myq=138
cc=100 mob=105 ks=134 pp=105 pw=129 cfd=0 sop=100 avd=5 rnd=0 sel=12 md=99\n
CMFun.CMP Base Rating: 2724 CM8000.OBK
A/D (Attack/Defender) [ 5] M/P (Material/Position) [ -5]
S/P (Strength of Play) [ 100] C/C (Control of Center) [ 105]
Rand (Randomness) [ 0] MOB (Mobility) [ 110]
MSD (Max Search Depth) [ 99] K/S (King Safety) [ 140]
SS (Selective Search) [ 12] P/P (Passed Pawns) [ 110]
C/D (Contempt for Draw) [ 0] P/W (Pawn Weakness) [ 135]
OWN OPPONENT
Queen [120] Queen [120]
Rook [ 60] Rook [ 60]
Bishop [ 40] Bishop [ 40]
Knight [ 40] Knight [ 40]
Pawn [ 11] Pawn [ 11]
Transposition Table [16 MB] Ponder On
Player Type: Personality Gender: Female
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Sarah.
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