Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 17:03:33 08/15/01
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On August 15, 2001 at 15:12:31, Dann Corbit wrote: >On August 15, 2001 at 10:05:44, Marc van Hal wrote: > >>The point that computer programs can find many epd's in a second is because it >>is programed to find these moves (I already told you before how bad this can >>be). >>The big prove of this was actualy the personelety contest of Rebel Century >> >>It is better to have a program with the knowledge >>So it even can create these kind of positions in a game (Alexander 1 Gambit >>Tiger) >>But on the other hand I do agree with Dan that computers indeed can find tactics >>which are over de heads of GM's >>But I dis agree that Advanced chess is the strongest way of chess in one way but >>I agree on an other way. >> >>The point on which I disagree is the point that the advanced games played this >>far,never showed a good combination of Human and Computer >>Or they gave the computer about all moves and did not even look if these moves >>where positional corect. >>Or they played them self to much >>The only way to play good advanced chess is create at the strongest positional >>plan posible and leave the tactics over on the computer >>These positional sacrefices also are as the words says positional ! >>And an other point where the human has to keep an eye on is development! >> >>If humans will understand and obey on these rules Advanced chess indeed will >>become the strongest form of chess. >> >>That you don't have to be a super GM to create such strong games is proven by me >>I gues. >> >>I yesterday did download the comercial from astalavista where Kasparov did give >>a simultaneous exhibition and walked very hard from board to board. >>But then stopped on one board took a chair and sateled down. >>Then the text says how to beat Kasparov's Evans Gambit >>Asta lavista .com >>Well in one way it is corect I posted the anelyzes of how to beat Kasparov's >>Evans Gambit and if the boy did find this by asta lavista.com it was a good >>comercial. > >With Advanced Chess -- I think the only successful implementations/experiments >so far are with correspondence chess. > >Sometimes, I think correspondence players just run their computer overnight and >play the move the computer suggests -- no matter how idiotic. But sometimes, >computers can be used to weed out deep tactics that are otherwised missed to >create brilliant strategic moves. > >I think the best GM's are really not used to playing standard time control >advanced chess using computers. Sometimes, they probably don't trust the >computer enough and sometimes too much. At some point, I think it will become >more effective in the normal standard chess type format. Perhaps I should prove my point by playing corespondence chess myself again (I am not saying this to say how great I am but more in a way on how to use computersin an optimal way Because I love good games no matter who is playing them Actualy I prefer that games are sorted out and played by them selfs but of the same quality. Then it saves me a lot of work.) To make it more clear for the bigger audience I don't believe you will get good results by keeping your computer over night Deep quick search is the real way to get the right moves(Which takes lot of work but as reward you get the right results ofcourse positional insight is important not al games are kingside slaughters sometimes the position becomes clears as late as moves over 40) I actualy started anelyzing when i played corespondence chess myself And I hated positions which are not based on a solid plan,or which can be refuted in time. I think besides Kasparov versus world Korchnoi Kasparov Wijk aan zee (though a pity he never mentioned f4 instead of Rxa4) And a game wich stands most likely on Jeroens computer (Kings Indian Gligoric variation) Are good ways to show the power of advanced chess Besides these games I also did send a game of Kasparov which he played with black against Timman in the Interpolis chess tournament 1981 Where a move wich actualy was found by Jan Timman Ng4 was a move which would have givven Black the advantage . In that time Gary still missed many superb moves.
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