Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 10:02:12 08/16/01
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On August 16, 2001 at 04:27:23, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On August 15, 2001 at 17:37:10, Roy Eassa wrote: >>As we all know, these characteristics are bogus. It's all statistics. > >you comment is bogus. >the strong chess players FEEL the programs as if these programs are >human beeings. thats very normal. your statistic point gives us no further >answer to the discussion other than YOU need many games to find out what a >strong IM/GM sees within an instant or feels by watching how you move. > > > >>A single >>game between programs can result in almost any style of game and any result. > >and ? >of course it can result in almost nothing. this is the reason people watch the >game. to find out WHY it happens THIS way. > >thats the difference between you and them. >they see it, you must guess it by waiting until 100 of games have been played. >they feel it. > > > >>They'd have to look at a 20-game match between two programs before any comments >>about styles and relative strengths they (the IMs) make would have any validity. > >nonsense. > > >> Failing that, it's kind of like reading your horoscope: it may sound plausible, >>but it's all hokum. > > >nonsense. you have no idea about computerchess nor about astrology. > >>My $0.02. > >i would pay 0.0001 $, not more for your asnwer. So, do you deny that looking at a single game, or a couple games, of one program, can be misleading as to that program's style? I've seen each of the top programs play games that make them look brilliant, stupid, positional, tactical, good at endgames, and weak at endgames. Every one of them is all of these at different times. I do not doubt the IMs' ability to judge positions, moves, or games. It is their ability to judge an entire program based on a single game, or a couple of games, that I doubt. Thank you very much for the personal insults, by the way. They are often a good sign of somebody's ability to converse dispassionately about a topic. God forbid two intelligent people might have honest disagreements in some areas. And, please, do enlighten us about astrology.
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