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Subject: Re: One easy mate to solve.

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 19:23:32 08/16/01

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On August 16, 2001 at 21:21:22, leonid wrote:

>On August 16, 2001 at 19:49:56, Heiner Marxen wrote:
>
>>On August 16, 2001 at 19:00:56, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 16, 2001 at 18:58:17, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 16, 2001 at 16:47:03, Heiner Marxen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 16, 2001 at 12:03:51, leonid wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This position is intended to be solvable by every program, after only minor
>>>>>>resistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1rrbbq2/3k4/1qqpnq2/3B4/2NPR3/1QB1KQ2/QN3PQQ/Q5QR w - -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please indicate your result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Leonid.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello Leonid!
>>>>>
>>>>>You should try to find titles for your beautiful creations!
>>>>>For this one I suggest "The King", for obvious reasons  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>I've not yet worked on this new creation of yours, since my K7/600 after
>>>>>60 hours is still busy crunching on your corrected "US".
>>>>>http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?183489
>>[D]B2B1qr1/N2Qb2q/Q2Rq3/Q2Q1q2/Q2Q2q1/Q2Q3n/R2Qq2k/1KN2rq1 w - -
>>>>>I know, you warned us :-) but I thought that would not apply to Chest.
>>>>>That there is no mate in 8 needed only 40 minutes with an apparent EBF
>>>>>below 10, so I expected less than 10 hours.  But this one is a hard nut
>>>>>for Chest.
>>>>
>>>>I understand that chest is working on finding if there is a mate in 9
>>>>Chessmaster6000(ss=10) can see mate in 12 in 7:20 at depth 1/6(PIII850)
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>It can see even mate in 11 in 16:58 at depth 1/7
>>>The move is d2-e2
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Hello Uri!
>>
>>Thanks for the info!
>>I expect Chest to find a mate in 9, here, but I have to wait until it is
>>completely done (64 hours and still busy...).
>>Ah, yes, d2-e2 is one of those moves, where the tree explodes for Chest.
>>
>>We'll see... I will report, of course...  until then...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Heiner
>
>Heiner, from what move exactly branching went up? On mine is started growing
>just from 6. It could be that I just stopped where it must explode.
>
>If you want to glace brute force:
>
>Moves      Time          Branching factor      NPS
>
>4          1.26sec                             77k
>                         6.65
>5          8.4 sec                             120k
>                         6.63
>6          55.77                               124k
>                         8.78
>7          8min 3sec                           116k
>                         8.17
>8          1 hour 5 min 48 sec
>
>Cheers,
>Leonid.

Here is my data:

depth    time    EBF[T]              EBF[N]
#  1      0.00s                 0kN           0.87          1-         0
#  2      0.00s                 0kN           1.00          1-         0
#  3      0.03s                 2kN [ 19.55]  0.96         94-         0
#  4      0.49s [ 16.33]       26kN [ 12.46]  1.02       1721-         0
#  5      5.79s [ 11.82]      272kN [ 10.44]  1.14      24491-         0
#  6     39.83s [  6.88]     1741kN [  6.40]  1.40     171448-         0
#  7    254.16s [  6.38]    11262kN [  6.47]  1.70    1091347-         1
#  8   2375.96s [  9.35]   109788kN [  9.75]  1.93    9380661-   1310495

First, it went down, nicely, but then it started climbing somewhat,
and the next one is at least 88 !  Uuh.
Its still running, over 66 hours already.

Cheers,
Heiner



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