Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 10:59:12 08/17/01
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On August 17, 2001 at 12:46:46, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>On August 17, 2001 at 11:03:19, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On August 17, 2001 at 10:27:49, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>Nimzo 8 have strong results in the new BS2001 Test.
>>>
>>>Information to this you can find in the "Nimzo - Forum" (only german, sorry but
>>>my englih is bad):
>>>
>>>http://www.myphorum.de/forum/read.php?f=313
>>>
>>>Eduard
>>
>>I have nothing against test positions like BS2001 and others but one should not
>>overestimate their value. A good example is Nimzo8 getting a high ELO rating in
>>this test, whereas the results in playing vs other programs are not at all
>>convincing.
>>Kurt
>
>Hello Kurt,
>
>Ok. you plaed many games with Autoplayer or ENG-ENG. I do it not!
>
>In my opinion Nimzo 8 can beat all programs with a good (tuning) book!
>I played with Nimzo 8 in the ChessBits Tournament 4 Rounds, and Nimzo 8
>played the interesting Chess and win agains "Century-Maastricht-Beta" (!)
>(this game you can see in Nimzo-Forum) and against CM6kramnik too!
>
>Kind Regards,
>Eduard
I think that live-game say more than Autopayer-game and ENG-Game.
Here are last "live" games from Nimzo 8.
Round 1:
This draw against Gandalf 4.32 is ok.
[Event "1.Online-Turnier"]
[Site "ChessBits"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Gandalf 4.32h,P1000"]
[Black "Nimzo 8x,P1000"]
[ECO "E47"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 c5 5. Bd3 O-O 6. Nf3
cxd4 7. exd4 Nc6 8. Bg5 d5 9. cxd5 exd5 10. O-O Bxc3
11. bxc3 Bg4 12. h3 Bh5 13. Rb1 h6 14. Bxf6 Qxf6 15. Rxb7
Nd8 16. Rb5 Ne6 17. g4 Bg6 18. Ne5 Qh4 19. Qf3 Ng5 20. Qg3
Qxh3 21. Qxh3 Nxh3+ 22. Kh2 Nf4 23. Bxg6 fxg6 24. Re1 g5
25. a4 Rac8 26. Re3 Rc7 27. Rc5 Rfc8 28. Nd7 Rxc5 29. Nxc5
Kf7 30. Nb7 Rc7 31. Nd6+ Kg6 32. a5 Rd7 33. Nf5 Kf6 34. Re8
g6 35. Rf8+ Ke6 36. Ne3 Rc7 37. Re8+ Kf7 38. Rh8 Rxc3
39. Rh7+ Kf6 40. Rxa7 Rd3 41. Ra6+ Ke7 42. Ra8 Kd6 43. a6
Kc7 44. Rh8 Kb6 45. Rxh6 Rd2 46. Nxd5+ Nxd5 47. Rxg6+ Ka7
48. Rxg5 Rxd4 49. Rf5 Kxa6 50. g5 Nc3 51. Kg2 Kb6 52. f4
Rd2+ 53. Kf3 Rd3+ 54. Kg4 Rd1 55. Re5 Rg1+ 56. Kf5 Nd1
57. g6 Nf2 58. Re3 Kc5 59. Ra3 Kd5 60. Ra5+ Kd4 61. Kf6
Ne4+ 62. Kg7 Nd6 63. f5 Rf1 64. Kf6 Ne8+ 65. Ke7 Re1+
66. Kf8 Nd6 67. f6 Re6 68. Kg7 Ne8+ 69. Kh7 Nxf6+ 70. Kh8
Ke3 71. Ra1 1/2-1/2
Round 2:
After move 51. g5? was white losing, but after Qg7 was game
draw, and against 51. c6 win for wthite!
(a strong testposition)
Nimzo 8 played after 43 second 51.g5? After 67 seconds he has
played Qg7.
[Event "1.Online-Turnier"]
[Site "ChessBits"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Nimzo 8x,P1000"]
[Black "Yace 0.99.50,Cel833"]
[ECO "B12"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. g4 Bg6 6. Nge2 Be7
7. Be3 Bg5 8. f4 Bh4+ 9. Ng3 Qb6 10. Na4 Qa5+ 11. c3 Ne7
12. Bh3 Be4 13. O-O Bxg3 14. hxg3 Nd7 15. b4 Qc7 16. f5 a5
17. fxe6 fxe6 18. Nc5 Nxc5 19. bxc5 Ng6 20. Qe2 Qd7 21. c4
a4 22. Rf2 Rf8 23. Raf1 Rxf2 24. Rxf2 Ne7 25. Qf1 Ng6
26. g5 dxc4 27. Qxc4 Bd5 28. Qf1 Be4 29. Bg4 Qe7 30. Bh5 a3
31. Qe1 Qd7 32. Qb4 Qe7 33. Qb3 Kd8 34. Bc1 Kc7 35. Bxa3
Bd5 36. Qe3 Nh8 37. Bc1 Bxa2 38. Qd3 g6 39. Bf3 Bd5
40. Bxd5 cxd5 41. Qf3 Ra1 42. Rf1 Ra8 43. Qf6 Qe8 44. Bd2
Kc6 45. Rb1 Kc7 46. Rb6 Ra1+ 47. Kf2 Ra6 48. Rb1 Ra2
49. Ke3 Ra3+ 50. Ke2 Nf7 51. g4 Nd8 52. Qf4 Qa4 53. Ke1 Rh3
54. Qf1 Qa3 55. c6 Nxc6 56. Qf7+ Ne7 57. Qf1 Qg3+ 58. Kd1
Qxg4+ 59. Kc1 b6 60. Rb2 Rf3 61. Qa6 Qg1+ 62. Kc2 Nc8
63. Qa4 Kd8 64. Rb1 Qf2 65. Rc1 Qe2 66. Qb4 Rf2 67. Ra1
Qe4+ 68. Kc3 Qe2 69. Kc2 Kd7 70. Ra8 Rf1 71. Ra3 Qd1+
72. Kc3 Rf3+ 73. Kb2 Rf2 74. Rd3 Ne7 75. Kc3 Qa1+ 76. Kb3
Qb1+ 77. Kc3 Qa2 78. Qb3 Qa6 79. Kb2 Nc6 80. Kb1 Rf1+
81. Bc1 Kd8 82. Rd2 Nxd4 83. Rxd4 Rxc1+ 84. Kxc1 Qa1+
85. Kc2 Qxd4 86. Kb1 Ke8 87. Qg3 Qd1+ 88. Kb2 Qd2+ 89. Kb3
d4 90. Qh4 Qe3+ 91. Kc2 Qxe5 92. Qxh7 Qxg5 93. Qg8+ Kd7
94. Qf7+ Kd6 95. Qf8+ Kc6 96. Kb2 Qb5+ 97. Ka2 Qd5+ 98. Kb2
d3 99. Qe8+ Kc5 100. Kc1 Qc4+ 0-1
Round 3:
After 31...f3! Nimzo was win, but after this
he become a endgame R against N, and this is for
"all" programs not easy to win. So game was draw.
Program Challenger was a "Shredder5-Setting".
[Event "1.Online-Turnier"]
[Site "ChessBits"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Challenger,D900"]
[Black "Nimzo 8x,P1000"]
[ECO "E99"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5
7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. Nd3 f5 11. Bd2 Nf6
12. f3 f4 13. c5 g5 14. cxd6 cxd6 15. Nf2 Ng6 16. Qc2 h5
17. h3 Rf7 18. Rfc1 g4 19. hxg4 hxg4 20. fxg4 Ne8 21. Qb3
Bd7 22. a4 Bf6 23. Qb4 Bh4 24. Be1 a5 25. Qb3 Nf6 26. Rc2
Rh7 27. Rb1 Bxg4 28. Nb5 Bxe2 29. Rxe2 Rc8 30. Rc2 Rxc2
31. Qxc2 f3 32. Rc1 Nf4 33. Qc8 Nxe4 34. Nxe4 Ne2+ 35. Kf1
Nxc1 36. Qe6+ Kh8 37. gxf3 Qf8 38. Bxh4 Rxh4 39. Ng5 Nd3
40. Qxd6 Qxd6 41. Nxd6 Rd4 42. Nf5 Rf4 43. d6 Nc5 44. Ne4
Nxe4 45. d7 Rxf3+ 46. Ke2 Rf2+ 47. Kd3 Rd2+ 48. Kxe4 Rxd7
49. Kxe5 Rd3 50. Nd6 Rb3 51. Nc4 b5 52. axb5 Rxb5+ 53. Kd4
a4 54. Kc3 Rb3+ 55. Kc2 Kg7 56. Nd2 Rg3 57. b3 a3 58. Nc4
Rg2+ 59. Kb1 a2+ 60. Ka1 Kf7 61. Nb2 Ke6 62. Kxa2 1/2-1/2
Round 4:
In this round hase kramnik "so" no chance, sorry!
[Event "1.Online-Turnier"]
[Site "ChessBits"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Nimzo 8x,P1000"]
[Black "CM6000Kramnik,A1200"]
[ECO "D33"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. c4 {0} e6 {5} 2. Nc3 {0} d5 {91} 3. d4 {0} c5 {60}
4. cxd5 {0} exd5 {94} 5. Nf3 {0} Nc6 {52} 6. g3 {0} Nf6
{108} 7. Bg2 {0} cxd4 {76} 8. Nxd4 {0} Bc5 {50} 9. Nxc6 {0}
bxc6 {140} 10. Qc2 {0} Qe7 {284} 11. O-O {0.04/12 186} O-O
{123} 12. Bg5 {0.09/12 0} Bd6 {229} 13. Qa4 {0.92/11 164}
Rb8 {108} 14. Qxc6 {1.42/11 60} Qe6 {119} 15. Bxf6 {1.83/11
88} Qxf6 {212} 16. Nxd5 {2.13/11 124} Qe6 {269} 17. b3
{2.10/11 0} Bb7 {244} 18. Qb5 {2.27/11 0} a6 {113} 19. Qd3
{2.42/11 74} Rfd8 {98} 20. Rfd1 {2.48/10 62} Ba3 {127}
21. Rab1 {2.57/12 1} a5 {131} 22. e3 {2.51/10 1} Bc6 {205}
23. Qc4 {2.59/11 0} Rdc8 {346} 24. Qh4 {2.73/12 1} Rf8
{117} 25. Nf4 {3.56/10 109} Qc8 {115} 26. Rbc1 {3.46/13 0}
Bxc1 {261} 27. Rxc1 {4.17/14 1} Rd8 {124} 28. Nh5 {3.94/12
53} Qf5 {134} 29. Bxc6 {3.94/12 1} Rd2 {124} 30. Rf1
{3.69/11 67} Rbd8 {324} 31. e4 {4.31/13 314} Qe5 {348}
32. Bd5 {4.20/13 0} Rc8 {121} 33. a4 {4.38/12 0} h6 {223}
34. Nf4 {4.74/11 57} Kf8 {276} 35. Ng2 {4.93/12 1} Qc7
{266} 36. Ne3 {5.20/11 34} Rd3 {150} 37. Nf5 {5.43/11 91}
Rd8 {234} 38. Qh5 {5.45/11 59} Rd7 {331} 39. Qg4 {5.79/13
1} g6 {97} 40. Nxh6 {6.92/12 150} Qd8 {100} 41. Bc4
{7.28/10 32} R3d4 {293} 42. Qf4 {8.11/10 21} f5 {94}
43. Nxf5 {12.23/10 18} gxf5 {138} 44. Qh6+ {13.45/13 1} Ke8
{90} 45. Qg6+ {13.16/12 0} Kf8 {89} 46. Qg8+ {12.84/10 22}
Ke7 {140} 47. Qg7+ {13.58/11 1} Ke8 {126} 48. Bb5 {14.93/13
0} Qb6 {91} 49. Rc1 {17.31/12 0} Qxb5 {153} 50. Rc8+
{18.55/11 1} Rd8 {56} 51. Rxd8+ {18.17/10 1} Kxd8 {77}
52. axb5 {18.77/11 0} 1-0
Round 5:
After move 55 GL (new Beta-version)was total losing, but
Nimzo played after 30 seconds 56.Bc6? But 56. g5! is the
win move. Nimzo 8 play it on (only) A 600 after 70 seconds.
[Event "1.Online-Turnier"]
[Site "ChessBits"]
[Date "2001.08.17"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Nimzo 8,A600"]
[Black "GL, A1533"]
[ECO "C02"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Qb6 6. Be2 cxd4
7. cxd4 Nh6 8. Nc3 Nf5 9. Na4 Qa5+ 10. Bd2 Bb4 11. Bc3 a6
12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 b5 14. Nc5 Qxc3 15. Rc1 Qa5 16. Bd3
Nfe7 17. Bb1 Ra7 18. a4 bxa4 19. Nxa4 h6 20. Rc5 Qd8
21. Rc3 Bd7 22. Nc5 Nb4 23. Qd2 Bb5 24. Rfc1 a5 25. Ne1 O-O
26. Rg3 Kh8 27. Rh3 Ng8 28. Nc2 Nxc2 29. Qxc2 g6 30. Qd2
Kg7 31. Bc2 Qe7 32. Rb3 Bc4 33. Rb6 Rfa8 34. Rcb1 Qh4
35. Rb7 Ne7 36. f4 Kh8 37. R7b6 Kg8 38. Ba4 Rc8 39. Nb7 Nf5
40. Nd6 Nxd6 41. exd6 Rd8 42. d7 Qf6 43. Rb8 Ra8 44. Rxa8
Rxa8 45. Kh1 Qd8 46. f5 Kg7 47. fxe6 fxe6 48. Qf4 Bd3
49. Rb7 Bf5 50. g4 Be4+ 51. Kg1 Kg8 52. Qe5 Kh7 53. Qxe6 h5
54. Qf7+ Kh6 55. Qf4+ Kh7 56. Bc6 a4 57. Rc7 Rb8 58. Bxa4
Rb1+ 59. Rc1 Rxc1+ 60. Qxc1 Qf6 61. Qe3 hxg4 62. Bb5 Kg7
63. Bc6 Qd6 64. Qg3 Qb4 65. Qe5+ Kh7 66. Kf2 g5 67. Bb5
Qxb5 68. Qe7+ Kg6 69. Qe8+ Kg7 70. Qe5+ Kh7 71. d8=Q 1/2-1/2
Round 6:
In this game Nimzo 8 played very strong in the middlegame,
A600 against A1200!
The endgame was draw, but Nimzo 8 would "not" play 41...BxN,
and about this, the knight from grendel was stronger than
the bishop and HE win very nice! Ok. grendel played this
endgame strong - my congratulation.
[Event "1.Online-Turnier"]
[Site "ChessBits"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "6"]
[White "DS Grendel,A1200"]
[Black "Nimzo 8,A600"]
[ECO "E86"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 e5
7. Nge2 c6 8. Qb3 exd4 9. Nxd4 d5 10. cxd5 cxd5 11. e5 Re8
12. f4 Nc6 13. Be2 Bh6 14. Rd1 Na5 15. Qc2 Nc6 16. Bc1 Nxd4
17. Rxd4 Bf5 18. Qb3 Rc8 19. exf6 Qxf6 20. Rxd5 Be4 21. Rg5
Bxg5 22. fxg5 Qd4 23. Rf1 Re7 24. Rf2 Bd3 25. Qd5 Qxd5
26. Nxd5 Rxe2+ 27. Rxe2 Rxc1+ 28. Kd2 Bxe2 29. Nf6+ Kg7
30. Kxc1 Bb5 31. Kd2 h6 32. h4 Bc6 33. g3 hxg5 34. hxg5 Kf8
35. Ke3 Ke7 36. Kd4 Ke6 37. Ng4 Bd5 38. b3 Kd6 39. Nf2 a5
40. Ne4+ Kc6 41. Ke5 b5 42. Kd4 Be6 43. Nc5 Bd5 44. a3 b4
45. axb4 axb4 46. Nb7 Be6 47. Nd8+ Kd6 48. Nxe6 fxe6 49. g4
e5+ 50. Kc4 e4 51. Kxb4 Ke5 52. Kc3 Kf4 53. Kd2 1-0
Round 7:
In this round, Nimzo 8 played against one "Maastricht-Beta"
from Rebel! Nimzo 8 played in the middlegame very strong, and
the win is very nice!
[Event "1.Online-Turnier"]
[Site "ChessBits"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Nimzo8,A600"]
[Black "Century-Maastricht/Beta,Cel533"]
[ECO "B80"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3
e6 7. f3 b5 8. Qd2 Nbd7 9. g4 h6 10. O-O-O Bb7 11. h4 b4
12. Na4 Qa5 13. b3 Be7 14. Kb1 Nc5 15. Nxc5 dxc5 16. Ne2
Rd8 17. Qc1 Nd7 18. Bg2 c4 19. g5 cxb3 20. axb3 Rc8
21. gxh6 Bf6 22. Nd4 gxh6 23. Bf2 Rc3 24. Rhg1 Ne5 25. Qf4
Be7 26. Bh3 Bc8 27. Rg7 Bf8 28. Rg2 Be7 29. Rdg1 Rf8
30. Be1 Rc5 31. Bd2 h5 32. Rg8 Qd8 33. Be3 Ra5 34. Rxf8+
Bxf8 35. Rg8 Qd6 36. Qg3 Bb7 37. Rh8 Ba8 38. Qf4 Bc6
39. Bxe6 Bd7 40. Bxf7+ 1-0
Round 8 and 9 com in next days.
Eduard
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