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Subject: Re: Deep Blue--Part III

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 14:33:44 05/11/98

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On May 11, 1998 at 14:06:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 11, 1998 at 02:27:47, Howard Exner wrote:
>
>>On May 10, 1998 at 20:49:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>> round 1 was a lucky win by Kasparov...  one or two tempi
>>>and things turn totally around...
>>
>>Could you elaborate on this assertion? The way I'm reading
>>it know is, "You were lucky to mate me because I was just about
>>to mate you!"
>
>
>Here's what a GM told me in looking over this.  Basically, after
>the fireworks were over, Kasparov had two passed pawns, while DB
>had material.  in most positions, the passed pawns (only two) would
>not be enough to win, they would be blockaded and won.  But in this
>game, everything "just came together" to make this not happen.  But
>if you move one of the pawns back a rank, or up a rank, or make some
>other modification to the board, the outcome could be quite different.
>
>Now the question is, did Kasparov "see" the ending, and *know* that he
>could win?  Hard to say.  *if* he did, then there was no "luck".  But
>I don't believe he calculated that deeply, and he relied on "intuition"
>that just happened to work in that game.  In another game his "winning
>intuition" was wrong and he drew what most thought was a won endgame
>for him.
>
>I've seen Crafty hit such positions, once in the GM match last week in
>the first round against Roman.  bishops of opposite color.  What
>appeared
>to be dead drawn to all watching.  But everything was just set up so
>that
>it wasn't...  was it luck or skill?  Hard to say...  but luck certainly
>smiled on silicon in that game, IMHO.  I'd bet that against a GM, Crafty
>would draw 8 of every 10 such endgames.  I'd bet that against DB, Garry
>would lose 8 of every 10 such positions...
>
>But that's only an opinion, because I don't know what he really "saw".
>I just suspect it didn't include what actually happened...

Crafty is not doing checks in q-search, which makes you play these
type of endings horrible, no matter how well your evaluation of it is,
if you cannot look it up in  EGTB.

Just test it for a while: checks in q-search in the rook
endgame, and you'll see that besides searching less deeply, your
moves will improve.

For some reason think crafty is not the standard chessprogram to see how
to play rook endings are played by pc programs.

Better look at how The King or Rebel plays it.

Greetings,
Vincent.








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