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Subject: Re: Testposition - Pawn Magic

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 14:08:46 08/18/01

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On August 18, 2001 at 15:18:32, Sune Larsson wrote:

>
>  [D]8/pR4pk/1b6/2p5/N1p5/8/PP1r2PP/6K1 b - - 0 1
>
>        Ortueta - Sanz, 1934
>
>
>  This position might prove to be a good test. Deep Fritz had some problems
>  here. Found the correct move after 13:14 with -0.28, then went green
>  after 35:39 with -2.47. PIII 800 - 64 MB Hash.
>
>  Black wins after 1.-Rxb2! 2.Nxb2 c3 3.Rxb6 c4! 4.Rb4 a5!  True Pawn Magic!!
>
>
>  Ortueta - Sanz
>  8/pR4pk/1b6/2p5/N1p5/8/PP1r2PP/6K1 b - - 0 1
>
>  Analysis by Deep Fritz: PIII 800 Mhz
>
>
>1...Bd8 2.Rxa7 Bf6 3.Rb7 Bd4+ 4.Kf1 Rf2+ 5.Ke1 Rxg2 6.h3
>  =  (0.19)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:00  67kN
>1...Bd8 2.Rxa7 Bf6 3.Kf1 Bxb2 4.Nxb2 Rxb2 5.a4 c3 6.a5
>  =  (0.22)   Depth: 9/20   00:00:00  123kN
>1...c3!
>  =  (0.19)   Depth: 9/20   00:00:00  149kN
>1...c3! 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4
>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 9/24   00:00:00  161kN
>1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Kf2 Rxc4
>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:00  242kN
>1...Bd8!
>  =  (0.03)   Depth: 10/27   00:00:01  382kN
>1...Bd8 2.h3 Bf6 3.Kf1 Kg6 4.Rxa7 Bxb2 5.Nxb2 Rxb2 6.a4 c3 7.a5
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 11/25   00:00:02  1076kN
>1...Bd8 2.h3 Bf6 3.Kf1 Kg6 4.a3 Bd4 5.g4 Rh2 6.Rxa7 Bxb2
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 12/27   00:00:03  2041kN
>1...Bd8 2.h3 Bf6 3.Kf1 Kg6 4.g4 Rh2 5.Rxa7 Bxb2 6.Nxb2 Rxb2 7.a4
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 13/28   00:00:07  4281kN
>1...Bd8 2.h3 Bf6 3.Kf1 Kg6 4.a3 a6 5.Rb6 Kf5 6.Nxc5 Bxb2 7.Rxa6
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 14/31   00:00:13  8712kN
>1...Bd8 2.h3 Bf6 3.Kf1 Kg6 4.a3 Bd4 5.g4 Rh2 6.Rxa7 Rxh3 7.Re7
>  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 15/32   00:00:36  23307kN
>1...Bd8 2.h3 Bf6 3.Kf1 Kg6 4.g4 Rh2 5.Rxa7 Bxb2 6.Nxb2 Rxb2 7.Ra6+
>  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 16/34   00:01:27  56494kN
>1...c3!
>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 16/34   00:01:33  60739kN, tb=4
>1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Kf2 Rxc4 7.Re6
>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 17/37   00:02:08  84446kN, tb=19
>1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Kf2 Rxc4 7.Re6
>  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 18/36   00:04:21  173788kN, tb=70
>1...Bd8!
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 18/37   00:11:10  443095kN, tb=84
>1...Rxb2!
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 18/38   00:13:14  527020kN, tb=84
>1...Rxb2! 2.Nxb2 c3 3.Rxb6 c4 4.Rb4 a5 5.Rb5 c2 6.Kf2 c1Q 7.Ke2
>  -+  (-2.47)   Depth: 18/38   00:35:39  1415072kN, tb=108
>
>(Larsson, KIL 18.08.2001)

Tested with all my favorite engines.  :)

This is the most interesting one. Deep Fritz, however on a LOT more mhz than
yours.  Mine takes a different route getting there than yours does.  (Look at
it's FIRST move!)  It finds the move in less time (approx 4 minutes less)
however, it takes more nodes to do so (about 70k more).  However on the same
ply, 18/38.  Also with less TB hits.  Here it is:

,S - Deep Fritz T29c
8/pR4pk/1b6/2p5/N1p5/8/PP1r2PP/6K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz T29c:

1...Rxb2--
  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
1...Rxb2-- 2.Nxb2
  +-  (4.16)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1...c3!
  +-  (3.81)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1...c3! 2.bxc3
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
1...Rd1+!
  ²  (0.41)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
1...Rd1+ 2.Kf2 Rd2+ 3.Kf3
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
1...c3!
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
1...c3 2.bxc3 c4+ 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1...Rd6!
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1...Rd6! 2.Kf2
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  1kN
1...Rd6 2.Kf2 Kg6 3.Re7
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  1kN
1...c3!
  ²  (0.53)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  1kN
1...c3! 2.bxc3 c4+ 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Rxa2
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  2kN
1...Kg6!
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  3kN
1...Kg6! 2.Kf1 c3 3.bxc3
  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  5kN
1...Kg6 2.Kf1 c3 3.bxc3 Rxa2 4.Nxb6
  ²  (0.41)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1...Kg6 2.Kf1 c3 3.bxc3 Rxa2 4.Nxb6 axb6 5.Rxb6+
  ²  (0.41)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00  18kN
1...Bd8!
  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  29kN
1...Bd8! 2.Rxa7 Bf6 3.Rb7
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  32kN
1...Bd8 2.Rxa7 Bf6 3.Rb7 Bd4+ 4.Kf1 Rf2+ 5.Ke1 Rxg2
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:00  44kN
1...Bd8 2.Rxa7 Bf6 3.Rb7 Bd4+ 4.Kf1 Rf2+ 5.Ke1 Rxg2 6.h3
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:00  74kN
1...Bd8 2.Rxa7 Bf6 3.Kf1 Bxb2 4.Nxb2 Rxb2 5.a4 c3 6.a5
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 9/20   00:00:00  128kN
1...c3!
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 9/20   00:00:00  158kN
1...c3! 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 9/20   00:00:00  171kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Kf2 Rxc4
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 10/20   00:00:00  253kN
1...Bd8!
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:00  401kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Kg6 4.Rxa7 Bxb2 5.Nxb2 Rxb2 6.a4 c3 7.a5
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 11/25   00:00:01  1085kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Kg6 4.a3 a6 5.Ra7 Bxb2 6.Rxa6+ Kf5 7.g4+
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 12/27   00:00:02  2973kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Kg6 4.a3 a6 5.Ra7 Bxb2 6.Rxa6+ Kf5 7.Nxc5
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 13/27   00:00:04  5075kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Kg6 4.a3 a6 5.Ra7 Bxb2 6.Rxa6+ Kf5 7.Nxc5
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 14/27   00:00:09  9588kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Kg6 4.g3 a6 5.Rb6 Kf5 6.Ke1 Rh2 7.Rxa6
  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 15/30   00:00:21  22245kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Kg6 4.g4 Rh2 5.Rxa7 Bxb2 6.Nxb2 Rxb2 7.Ra6+
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 16/33   00:00:55  56202kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Kg6 4.g4 Rh2 5.Rxa7 Bxb2 6.Nxb2 Rxb2 7.Ra3
  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 17/36   00:02:31  152935kN, tb=4
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Bd4 4.g4 Rf2+ 5.Ke1 Rh2 6.Rxa7 Rxh3 7.Kd1
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 18/38   00:09:11  556293kN, tb=50
1...Rxb2!
  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 18/38   00:09:50  593790kN, tb=63

(,  18.08.2001)

On watching the CPU using, DF never took full 100% power of both CPU's.  It
varied from 73% to 88%.  I am not sure if that is caused by bad SMP code, or the
fact is was using TB's.  As you can see, I average about 1100k nps.  I've seen
2000k+ from this engine.  Also, I let it run for over 30 minutes, however the
analysis window never updated, so I stopped it.

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,S - Shredder 5.32
8/pR4pk/1b6/2p5/N1p5/8/PP1r2PP/6K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 5.32:

1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 4/8   00:00:00
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Rc2
  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00  11kN
1...Kg6 2.Kf1 c3 3.Nxb6 cxb2 4.Na8 Rd1+ 5.Kf2 b1Q 6.Rxb1 Rxb1
  ±  (0.74)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00  25kN
1...Kg6 2.a3 Rc2 3.Kf1 c3 4.bxc3
  ²  (0.57)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00  34kN
1...Kg6 2.a3 Rd6 3.Kf2 Kf6 4.Ke3 Re6+ 5.Kf4
  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  76kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Kf1 Rc2 5.Ke1
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  81kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Rc2 5.Rb3
  ²  (0.57)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  86kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Rc2 5.Rb3 Kg6
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:00  121kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Rb7 Rxc4
  ²  (0.26)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:00  191kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Rb7 Rxc4
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:00  210kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Rb7 Rxc4
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 10/20   00:00:00  273kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Kf2 Rxc4 7.Rb7
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 11/22   00:00:00  406kN, tb=13
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.Kf2 Rxc3 6.Rc6 c4 7.Rc7 Kg6
  =  (0.02)   Depth: 12/24   00:00:01  807kN, tb=15
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Kf2 Rxc4 7.Rc6 Rc2+ 8.Kf3
g6 9.h3
  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 13/25   00:00:01  1261kN, tb=17
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.Kf2 Rxc3 6.Ke2 Rc2+ 7.Kf3 c4 8.Rc6
c3
  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 14/26   00:00:02  2248kN, tb=25
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.Kf2 Rxc3 6.h4
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 15/27   00:00:05  4043kN, tb=80
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.Kf2 Rxc3 6.h4
  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 16/28   00:00:16  11693kN, tb=633
1...Rxb2 2.Nxb2 c3 3.Rxb6 c4 4.Rb4 a5 5.Nd3 cxd3 6.Rh4+ Kg8 7.g3 c2 8.Kh1 c1Q+
9.Kg2
  =  (-0.02)   Depth: 16/28   00:00:28  20571kN, tb=985
1...Rxb2 2.Nxb2 c3 3.Rxb6 c4 4.Rb4 a5 5.Nd3 cxd3 6.Rh4+ Kg8 7.Rh3 d2
  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 16/28   00:00:30  22253kN, tb=986
1...Rxb2 2.Re7 Rxa2 3.Nc3 Ra3 4.Nd5 c3 5.Re2 Ra1+ 6.Kf2 Rd1 7.Nf4
  -+  (-3.03)   Depth: 16/28   00:05:35  228565kN, tb=4131

(,  18.08.2001)

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,S - Deep Junior 6.0
8/pR4pk/1b6/2p5/N1p5/8/PP1r2PP/6K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 6.0:

1...Kg6 2.Kf1 c3 3.Nxb6 axb6
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  1kN
1...Kg6 2.Kf1 c3 3.bxc3 Rxa2 4.Nxb6 axb6 5.Rxb6+
  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  13kN
1...Kg6 2.Kf1 Rc2 3.h4 c3 4.bxc3 Rxa2 5.Nxb6 axb6
  ²  (0.46)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  123kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra1+ 5.Kf2 Ra2+ 6.Kf3 Ra3 7.Rb7 Rxc3+
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  156kN
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Ra4 6.Kf2 Rxc4
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 15   00:00:00  1308kN
1...c3!
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 18   00:00:04  7877kN, tb=2
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Kf2 Rxc4 7.Rc6 Rc2+ 8.Kf3
c4 9.g4 c3 10.Rc4
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 21   00:00:44  74904kN, tb=160
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.c4 Rc3 6.Kf2 Rxc4 7.Rc6 Rc2+ 8.Ke3
  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 23   00:03:08  310291kN, tb=866
1...c3 2.bxc3 Rxa2 3.Nxb6 axb6 4.Rxb6 Ra3 5.Rc6 Rxc3 6.Kf2 Rc2+ 7.Ke3 Rxg2
8.Rxc5 Ra2 9.h4 Ra4 10.h5 Kh6
  =  (-0.10)   Depth: 24   00:08:38  854299kN, tb=2213
1...Rxb2!
  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 24   00:13:16  1027229kN, tb=3149

(,  18.08.2001)


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And with no surprise, the fastest, Gambit Tiger 2.0:

,S - Gambit Tiger 2.0
8/pR4pk/1b6/2p5/N1p5/8/PP1r2PP/6K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Gambit Tiger 2.0:

1...Bd8 2.Rxa7 Bf6 3.Rb7 Bd4+ 4.Kf1 Rf2+ 5.Ke1 Rxg2 6.h4 Kg6
  =  (0.10)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  161kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 a5 4.Rb5 Bd4 5.Rxa5 Rf2+ 6.Ke1 Rxg2
  =  (0.08)   Depth: 10   00:00:00  316kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Kg6 4.a3 Bd4 5.g4 Rf2+ 6.Ke1 a5
  =  (0.02)   Depth: 11   00:00:01  531kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1 Bf6 3.h3 Kg6 4.a3 Bd4 5.g4 Rh2 6.Ke1 a6 7.Rb6+ Kf7
  =  (-0.08)   Depth: 12   00:00:03  1200kN
1...Bd8 2.Kf1
  =  (-0.08)   Depth: 13   00:00:03  1285kN
1...Rxb2
  µ  (-0.98)   Depth: 13   00:00:04  1748kN
1...Rxb2 2.Nxb2 c3 3.Rxb6 c4 4.Rb4 a5 5.Rb5 c2 6.Kf2 c1Q 7.Kf3 Qf1+ 8.Ke3 Qxg2
9.Nxc4 Qxa2 10.Nxa5
  -+  (-1.86)   Depth: 13   00:00:05  2165kN
1...Rxb2 2.Nxb2 c3 3.Rxb6 c4 4.Rb4 a5 5.Rb5 c2 6.Kf2 c1Q 7.Rh5+ Kg6 8.Rb5 c3
9.Rb6+ Kf5
  -+  (-2.16)   Depth: 14   00:00:09  3535kN
1...Rxb2 2.Nxb2 c3 3.Rxb6 c4 4.Rb4 a5 5.Rb5 c2 6.Kf2 c1Q 7.Ke2 c3 8.Nc4 Qc2+
9.Ke3 Qxa2 10.Nxa5 Qxg2
  -+  (-2.74)   Depth: 15   00:00:19  7327kN, tb=7

(,  18.08.2001)

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All were on a 2xPIV 1.7Ghz.  128MB hash.


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