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Subject: Re: Whither Null Move?

Author: Antonio Dieguez

Date: 12:28:00 08/19/01

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On August 19, 2001 at 03:44:20, Rémi Coulom wrote:

>On August 18, 2001 at 21:11:00, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
>
>>So I've been dinkering with null move. Or it's been dinkering
>>with me.
>>
>>Without using null move, an 8-ply search in the opening
>>position looked like:
>>
>>ply    time   nodes  score  pv
>>  1    0.00      21     28  d2d4
>>  2    0.00      97    -20  d2d4 d7d5

-20 centipawns in this symetrical position?

>>  3    0.06     842     16  d2d4 d7d5 g1f3
>>  4    0.06    3423    -15  e2e4 g8f6 e4e5 f6e4
>
>From this +/- oscillation of the score, I guess that you do not give a big
>enough bonus for being on the move. This what kills your null move. Just add a
>bonus for the player on the move so that the evaluation oscillates as little as
>possible. Null move should work much better then.
>
>Rémi

Interesting that you use a bonus.
Anyway in this particular position, my guess (just my guess) would be that if
r=3 is used, a bonus would be no good for nullmove, as nullmoving steal an
important tempo for the side to move.



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