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Subject: Re: Ferret-Gandalf -some analysis of Deep Fritz

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:16:21 08/20/01

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On August 20, 2001 at 03:33:18, Jeroen Noomen wrote:

>On August 19, 2001 at 15:28:01, Peter Kappler wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>Some comments on this game, in which I was operator for Gandalf:
>
>1. After 40 moves Black was clearly winning. Ferret didn't seem
>   to find a suitable plan during the game and both programs
>   showed over +3 for Black.
>2. 42 ... Qa1? complicates matters, where 42 ... Qd4! (also
>   expected by Ferret) wins very easily after the exchange of
>   queens.

Deep Fritz also likes Qa1

Ferret - Gandalf
rr4k1/5p2/3p2p1/3Pq2p/pnP1P2P/Bn2NR2/5PP1/1B1Q2K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz:

42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  13kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5 Rxb1
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  26kN
42...Qd4 43.Qe1 Nd2 44.Rg3 Nxd5 45.Nxd5 Rxb1
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 7/20   00:00:00  71kN
42...Qd4 43.Qxd4 Nxd4 44.Rf6 Ra6 45.Kh2 Kg7 46.e5 dxe5 47.Rxa6
  -+  (-1.44)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:00  192kN
42...Qd4 43.Qxd4 Nxd4 44.Rf6 Ra6 45.e5 dxe5 46.Rxa6 Nxa6 47.Be4 f5
  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:00  502kN
42...Qd4 43.Qxd4 Nxd4 44.Rf6 Ra6 45.e5 dxe5 46.Rxa6 Nxa6 47.Be4 f5 48.Bd3
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:02  1656kN
42...Qd4 43.Qxd4 Nxd4 44.Rf6 Ne2+ 45.Kh2 Nc3 46.Bxb4 Rxb4 47.Bd3 a3 48.Rxd6
  µ  (-1.34)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:07  4430kN
42...Nc5!
  µ  (-1.38)   Depth: 11/31   00:00:10  6714kN
42...Nc5 43.Nc2 Nba6 44.Re3 Rb7 45.Ba2 Re7 46.Qe1 Ree8
  µ  (-1.19)   Depth: 12/31   00:00:26  17079kN
42...Qd4!
  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 12/31   00:00:28  18708kN
42...Qd4! 43.Qxd4 Nxd4 44.Rf6 Ne2+ 45.Kh2 Nc3 46.Bxb4 Rxb4 47.Bd3 a3 48.Rxd6
  -+  (-1.44)   Depth: 12/32   00:00:30  20308kN
42...Qd4 43.Qxd4 Nxd4 44.Rf6 Ne2+ 45.Kh2 Nc3 46.Bxb4 Rxb4 47.Bd3 a3 48.Rxd6
  µ  (-1.31)   Depth: 13/33   00:00:53  35714kN
42...Qd4!
  -+  (-1.63)   Depth: 14/34   00:03:03  124420kN
42...Qd4!
  -+  (-1.94)   Depth: 15/37   00:06:11  254848kN
42...Qa1!
  -+  (-1.97)   Depth: 15/39   00:08:43  362271kN
42...Qa1! 43.Bxb4 Nd4 44.Qe1 Qb2 45.Bxd6 Qxb1 46.Nd1 Nxf3+ 47.gxf3 Rb3
  -+  (-2.19)   Depth: 15/39   00:10:14  426538kN
42...Qa1 43.Bxb4 Nd4 44.Qe1 Qb2 45.Bxd6 Qxb1 46.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 47.Kh2 a3 48.Be5
  -+  (-2.34)   Depth: 16/39   00:15:18  637358kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 20.08.2001)

>3. 43 e5! is a brilliant schwindle, the only chance to play on.
>4. 43 ... Qxa3? spoils the win. Ferret expected the obvious
>   43 ... Qxe5! after which Black is still much better.
>5. 50 ... Kc8?? was the losing move, according to Ferret 50 ... Qxe5
>   leads to a draw. Unfortunately Gandalf still thought it was
>   better, but after Kc8? it was a forced loss.

Deep Fritz prefers another move after 15 minutes
It seems that Deep Fritz needs very slow hardware to find  50...Qxe5

Ferret - Gandalf
rr1k4/8/3P2Q1/4P2p/pnP4P/1n2N3/5PP1/qB4K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz:

50...Qxe5 51.Be4 Ra6 52.Qg8+ Qe8 53.Qxe8+ Kxe8
  -+  (-6.38)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00  4kN
50...Qxe5
  -+  (-6.06)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  13kN
50...Qxe5
  -+  (-6.06)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  13kN
50...Qxe5
  -+  (-6.06)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  13kN
50...Qxe5
  -+  (-6.06)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  13kN
50...Qxe5
  -+  (-6.06)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  13kN
50...Qxe5
  -+  (-6.06)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  13kN
50...Qxe5
  -+  (-6.06)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  13kN
50...Qxe5
  -+  (-6.06)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  13kN
50...Qxe5--
  -+  (-5.75)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  22kN
50...Qxe5-- 51.Bf5 Nc6 52.Qg5+ Ne7 53.dxe7+ Qxe7 54.Qxh5
  -+  (-4.16)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  35kN
50...Qxe5--
  -+  (-3.84)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:00  131kN
50...Qxe5-- 51.Bf5 Nc6 52.Qg8+ Qe8 53.Qg5+ Ne7 54.Nd5 Qf7 55.dxe7+ Ke8
  -+  (-3.41)   Depth: 7/22   00:00:00  152kN
50...Rb7!
  -+  (-3.44)   Depth: 7/24   00:00:00  285kN
50...Rb7! 51.Qg8+ Kd7 52.Qh7+ Kc6 53.Qe4+ Kb6 54.e6 Nc5 55.Qf5
  -+  (-3.75)   Depth: 7/24   00:00:00  368kN
50...Rb7 51.Qg8+ Kd7 52.Qxa8 Qxb1+ 53.Kh2 Qe4 54.Qxa4+ Nc6 55.Kg1 Qxh4
  -+  (-3.78)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:01  712kN
50...Rb7--
  -+  (-3.47)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:01  1040kN
50...Rb7-- 51.e6 Rg7 52.Qf5 Rg8
  -+  (-3.09)   Depth: 9/31   00:00:02  1376kN
50...Kc8!
  -+  (-3.13)   Depth: 9/31   00:00:03  2292kN
50...Kc8! 51.Qf7 Qxb1+ 52.Kh2 Na6 53.Nd5
  -+  (-3.19)   Depth: 9/31   00:00:04  2724kN
50...Kc8--
  -+  (-2.88)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:04  2804kN
50...Kc8-- 51.Qf7 Qxb1+ 52.Kh2 Na6 53.Nd5 Nbc5 54.d7+ Nxd7 55.Qe8+ Kb7 56.Qxd7+
  -+  (-2.03)   Depth: 10/32   00:00:05  3567kN
50...Kc8--
  -+  (-1.72)   Depth: 11/30   00:00:09  6110kN
50...Kc8-- 51.Qf7 Qxb1+ 52.Kh2 Na6 53.e6 Ra7 54.e7 Rxe7 55.dxe7 Nc7 56.e8Q+
  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 11/33   00:00:13  8864kN
50...Rb7!
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:16  10925kN
50...Rb7! 51.e6 Qg7 52.e7+ Rxe7 53.dxe7+ Qxe7 54.Qg8+ Qe8 55.Qg5+ Kd7 56.Bf5+
  -+  (-1.88)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:27  17961kN
50...Rb7 51.e6 Qg7 52.e7+ Rxe7 53.dxe7+ Qxe7 54.Qg8+ Qe8 55.Qg5+ Kd7 56.Bf5+
  -+  (-1.78)   Depth: 12/35   00:00:43  28904kN
50...Rb7--
  -+  (-1.47)   Depth: 13/35   00:00:59  39711kN
50...Rb7-- 51.e6 Qg7 52.e7+ Rxe7 53.dxe7+ Qxe7 54.Qb6+ Ke8 55.c5 Nd4
  µ  (-0.78)   Depth: 13/44   00:02:45  118086kN
50...Rb7 51.e6 Qg7 52.e7+ Rxe7 53.dxe7+ Qxe7 54.Qb6+ Ke8 55.c5 Kf8
  ³  (-0.69)   Depth: 14/38   00:05:10  220202kN
50...Rb7 51.e6 Qg7 52.e7+ Rxe7 53.dxe7+ Qxe7 54.Qb6+ Ke8 55.c5 Nxc5
  ³  (-0.66)   Depth: 15/41   00:13:39  574159kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 20.08.2001)

Uri



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