Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:35:11 08/20/01
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On August 19, 2001 at 07:04:07, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>On August 19, 2001 at 06:46:30, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 17, 2001 at 04:44:24, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>After this dubious result i have decided to run the match all over from scratch
>>>you can follow this match + UCI engine tests live here :
>>>
>>>http://www.geocities.com/vainot/BetaChess.html
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Jonas
>>>
>>>[Event "live8"]
>>>[Site "MyTown"]
>>>[Date "2001.08.14"]
>>>[Round "1.1"]
>>>[White "Goliath Light 1.5"]
>>>[Black "Ikarus V0.18"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>[ECO "A57"]
>>>[PlyCount "133"]
>>>[EventDate "2001.08.14"]
>>>
>>>1. d4 {1} 1... Nf6 {0} 2. c4 {0} 2... c5 {0} 3. d5 {0} 3... b5 {0} 4. Nd2 {0}
>>>4... bxc4 {0} 5. e4 {0} 5... d6 {0} 6. Bxc4 {0} 6... g6 {0} 7. b3 {0} 7... Bg7
>>>{0} 8. Bb2 {0} 8... O-O {0} 9. Ngf3 {0} 9... Nbd7 {0} 10. O-O {0} 10... Nb6 {0}
>>>11. Re1 {0} 11... a5 {0.18/12 316} 12. Ng5 {0.62/13 298}
>>
>>I do not know which engine played for white but it seems clear that it is not
>>Goliath Light 1.5
>>My goliath cannnot see something close to 0.62 at depth 13
>>
>>Here is the analysis:
>>
>>Goliath Light 1.5 - Ikarus V0.18
>>[D]r1bq1rk1/4ppbp/1n1p1np1/p1pP4/2B1P3/1P3N2/PB1N1PPP/R2QR1K1 w - a6 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Goliath Light 1.5:
>>
>>12.Bb5 Ng4 13.Bxg7 Kxg7
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 6/15 00:00:00
>>12.Bb5 Rb8 13.Bxf6 Bxf6 14.Rc1
>> ² (0.36) Depth: 6/16 00:00:00 11kN
>>12.h3 Re8 13.Qc2 e5
>> ² (0.44) Depth: 6/22 00:00:00 34kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.bxa4 Rxa4 14.Qb3
>> ² (0.50) Depth: 6/22 00:00:00 51kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.bxa4 Rxa4 14.Qb3
>> ² (0.50) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 52kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Ng5 h6 14.Bxf6 Bxf6
>> ² (0.35) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 74kN
>>12.Bb5
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 81kN
>>12.Bb5 Rb8 13.Bc6 Ng4 14.Bxg7 Kxg7
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 86kN
>>12.Bb5 Rb8 13.Bc6 Ng4 14.Bxg7 Kxg7
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 8/22 00:00:00 116kN
>>12.Bb5 Rb8 13.Bc6 Ba6 14.Ng5 Bd3
>> ² (0.43) Depth: 8/23 00:00:01 204kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Ng4 15.Bc6
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 8/23 00:00:01 262kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Ng4 15.Bc6
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 9/23 00:00:01 299kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Bg4 15.Bc6 Ra6
>> ² (0.43) Depth: 9/24 00:00:01 416kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Bg4 15.Bc6 Ra6
>> ² (0.43) Depth: 10/27 00:00:03 943kN
>>12.Rc1 Bb7 13.Bb5 e5 14.Nc4 Bh6 15.Rc3 Nxc4 16.Rxc4
>> ² (0.45) Depth: 10/31 00:00:07 2023kN
>>12.Rc1 Bb7 13.Bb5 e5 14.Nc4 Bh6 15.Rc3 Nxc4 16.Rxc4
>> ² (0.45) Depth: 11/31 00:00:11 2864kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bxf6 Bxf6 14.Bb5 axb3 15.Qxb3 e6 16.Bc6 Ra5 17.Nc4 Nxc4 18.Qxc4
>> = (0.23) Depth: 11/31 00:00:22 6205kN
>>12.Bb5 Bd7 13.a4 Rb8 14.Bc3 Ng4 15.Bxg7 Kxg7 16.h3 Nf6 17.Nc4 Nxc4 18.bxc4
>> ² (0.29) Depth: 11/31 00:00:32 9520kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Bg4 15.Bc6 Rb8 16.Qc3 Qc7
>> ² (0.31) Depth: 11/33 00:00:50 14375kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Bg4 15.Bc6 Rb8 16.Qc3 Qc7
>> ² (0.31) Depth: 12/33 00:01:13 21063kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 Bd7 14.Bxd7 Qxd7 15.b4 cxb4 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Rxb4 Rab8 18.Qb1
>>Qc7
>> ² (0.27) Depth: 12/33 00:01:32 26284kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 Bd7 14.Bxd7 Qxd7 15.b4 cxb4 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Rxb4 Rab8 18.Qb1
>>Qc7
>> ² (0.27) Depth: 13/34 00:03:43 68249kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 Bd7 14.Bxd7 Qxd7 15.b4 cxb4 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Rxb4 Rab8 18.Qb1
>>Qc7
>> ² (0.27) Depth: 13/34 00:04:01 74312kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 Bd7 14.Bxd7 Qxd7 15.b4 cxb4 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Rxb4 Rab8 18.Qb1
>>Qc7
>> ² (0.27) Depth: 14/36 00:06:35 133959kN
>>
>>(Blass, Tel-aviv 19.08.2001)
>>
>>I try to repeat the analysis at game conditions( I told goliath 3 hours/40 moves
>>on my pIII800)
>>I get again only 12.Rb1 with the same score.
>>
>>Goliath Light 1.5 - Blass,U
>>r1bq1rk1/4ppbp/1n1p1np1/p1pP4/2B1P3/1P3N2/PB1N1PPP/R2QR1K1 w - a6 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Goliath Light 1.5:
>>
>>12.Bb5 Ng4 13.Bxg7 Kxg7
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 6/15 00:00:00
>>12.Bb5 Rb8 13.Bxf6 Bxf6 14.Rc1
>> ² (0.36) Depth: 6/16 00:00:00 11kN
>>12.h3 Re8 13.Qc2 e5
>> ² (0.44) Depth: 6/22 00:00:00 34kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.bxa4 Rxa4 14.Qb3
>> ² (0.50) Depth: 6/22 00:00:00 51kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.bxa4 Rxa4 14.Qb3
>> ² (0.50) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 52kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Ng5 h6 14.Bxf6 Bxf6
>> ² (0.35) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 74kN
>>12.Bb5
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 81kN
>>12.Bb5 Rb8 13.Bc6 Ng4 14.Bxg7 Kxg7
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 86kN
>>12.Bb5 Rb8 13.Bc6 Ng4 14.Bxg7 Kxg7
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 8/22 00:00:00 116kN
>>12.Bb5 Rb8 13.Bc6 Ba6 14.Ng5 Bd3
>> ² (0.43) Depth: 8/23 00:00:01 204kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Ng4 15.Bc6
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 8/23 00:00:01 262kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Ng4 15.Bc6
>> ² (0.46) Depth: 9/23 00:00:01 299kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Bg4 15.Bc6 Ra6
>> ² (0.43) Depth: 9/24 00:00:01 416kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Bg4 15.Bc6 Ra6
>> ² (0.43) Depth: 10/27 00:00:03 943kN
>>12.Rc1 Bb7 13.Bb5 e5 14.Nc4 Bh6 15.Rc3 Nxc4 16.Rxc4
>> ² (0.45) Depth: 10/31 00:00:07 2023kN
>>12.Rc1 Bb7 13.Bb5 e5 14.Nc4 Bh6 15.Rc3 Nxc4 16.Rxc4
>> ² (0.45) Depth: 11/31 00:00:10 2864kN
>>12.Rc1 a4 13.Bxf6 Bxf6 14.Bb5 axb3 15.Qxb3 e6 16.Bc6 Ra5 17.Nc4 Nxc4 18.Qxc4
>> = (0.23) Depth: 11/31 00:00:21 6205kN
>>12.Bb5 Bd7 13.a4 Rb8 14.Bc3 Ng4 15.Bxg7 Kxg7 16.h3 Nf6 17.Nc4 Nxc4 18.bxc4
>> ² (0.29) Depth: 11/31 00:00:32 9520kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Bg4 15.Bc6 Rb8 16.Qc3 Qc7
>> ² (0.31) Depth: 11/33 00:00:48 14375kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 axb3 14.Qxb3 Bg4 15.Bc6 Rb8 16.Qc3 Qc7
>> ² (0.31) Depth: 12/33 00:01:11 21063kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 Bd7 14.Bxd7 Qxd7 15.b4 cxb4 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Rxb4 Rab8 18.Qb1
>>Qc7
>> ² (0.27) Depth: 12/33 00:01:29 26284kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 Bd7 14.Bxd7 Qxd7 15.b4 cxb4 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Rxb4 Rab8 18.Qb1
>>Qc7
>> ² (0.27) Depth: 13/34 00:03:37 68249kN
>>12.Rb1 a4 13.Bb5 Bd7 14.Bxd7 Qxd7 15.b4 cxb4 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Rxb4 Rab8 18.Qb1
>>Qc7
>> ² (0.27) Depth: 13/34 00:03:54 74312kN
>>
>>(Blass, Tel-aviv 19.08.2001)
>>
>>Uri
>
>I can assure you that it is Goliath Light 1.5 on a Celeron 500 mhz 128 ram win2k
>
>Regards
>Jonas
I am sorry if you feel bad from my post.
I got your email few days ago but payed attention to it only now.
I do not think that you have an interest in making one engine looks better than
another.
I thought that there may be some error.
I said that it seems clear and did not say that it is clear because I was not
sure but it seemed strange for me that the score of my little goliath is not
close to the score in the game.
I admit that I used different hardware(PIII800 with 64 Mbytes) but if I see not
only different move but also clearly different score then I suspect that
something is wrong but I admit that it is possible that there is another problem
with the program.
Uri
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