Author: Slater Wold
Date: 19:21:50 08/20/01
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On August 20, 2001 at 13:32:40, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>Junior played fantastical, my congratulation to Amir Ban!
>
>Position after move 24. Junior played now Rxc6!! I test this position with
>Fritz 6c, and Fritz find this move by me not in 15 Minutes on P600. What say
>here another programs?
>
>
>[D]r3k2r/4b2p/p1n3pN/1p1q1p2/5B2/3p1P2/PP4PP/2RQR2K w kq -
>
>Eduard
Don't feel bad. Shredder 5.32 takes 18+ minutes to find it, Deep Junior never
does, and Crafty 18.10 doesn't either:
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Shredder 5.32 - ,S
r3k2r/4b2p/p1n3pN/1p1q1p2/5B2/3p1P2/PP4PP/2RQR2K w kq - 0 1
Analysis by Shredder 5.32:
1.Rxe7+ Nxe7
-+ (-3.11) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00
1.Rxe7+ Nxe7
-+ (-3.11) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00
1.Rxc6 Qxc6 2.Qxd3
µ (-1.17) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00
1.Rxc6 Qxc6 2.Qxd3
µ (-1.17) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00
1.Qd2 0-0-0 2.Rxc6+ Qxc6 3.Rxe7
³ (-0.45) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.Kg1
= (-0.23) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.Kg1
³ (-0.27) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00
1.Rc3 Qd4 2.Be3 b4
= (-0.23) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00
1.Rc3 Qd4 2.Be3 b4
= (-0.23) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00
1.Rc3 Qd4 2.Be3 Kd8
= (0.02) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00
1.Rc3 Qd4 2.Be3 Kd8
= (0.03) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00
1.Rc3 Rd8 2.Bg5 Ne5 3.Bxe7 Kxe7
= (0.08) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00
1.Rc3 Qxa2 2.Qxd3 Qxb2 3.Rxc6
² (0.33) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00
1.Rc3 Rd8 2.Qd2 Nb4 3.Rc7 Qxa2 4.Rexe7+ Kf8
² (0.41) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00
1.Rc3 Rd8 2.Bg5 d2 3.Re2 b4 4.Rxd2 Qxa2 5.Rxd8+ Bxd8 6.Qxd8+ Nxd8 7.Bxd8
² (0.39) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 39kN
1.Rc3 Rd8 2.Bg5 Nb4 3.Bxe7 Qxa2 4.Bxb4+ Qe6
² (0.64) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 77kN
1.Rc3 Rd8 2.Bg5 Kf8 3.Rxd3 Qxd3 4.Bc1 Qxd1
² (0.64) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 118kN
1.Rc3 Rd8 2.Bg5 Kf8 3.Rxd3 Qxd3 4.Bxe7+ Nxe7 5.Qa4 bxa4
² (0.39) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 258kN
1.Rc3 Rd8 2.Bg5 Kf8 3.Rxd3 Qxd3 4.Re3 Qxd1+ 5.Re1 Qxe1#
= (-0.11) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 331kN
1.Rc3 Rd8 2.Qd2 Kf8 3.Bc7 Rd7 4.Bf4 Nb4
= (-0.17) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 415kN
1.Qd2 Rd8 2.Bg5 Ne5 3.Bxe7 Qa8 4.Rxe5 Qxf3
= (-0.16) Depth: 8/16 00:00:01 493kN
1.Qd2 Rd8 2.Bg5 Ne5 3.Bxe7 Qd6 4.Bxd6 Rxd6 5.Rxe5+ Kf8
= (0.19) Depth: 8/16 00:00:01 545kN
1.Qd2 b4 2.Red1 Rd8 3.Qe3 Rd7 4.Kg1 Qb5
² (0.46) Depth: 8/16 00:00:01 858kN
1.Qd2 b4 2.Bg5 Kf8 3.Bxe7+ Nxe7 4.Qxb4 Qxa2 5.Rxe7 a5 6.Qh4 Qxb2
± (0.71) Depth: 9/18 00:00:02 1240kN
1.Qd2 Rd8 2.Qc3 Kd7 3.Nf7 d2 4.Qxd2 Qxd2 5.Bxd2
± (1.04) Depth: 9/18 00:00:03 1605kN
1.Qd2 Rd8 2.Qc3 Rf8 3.Bg5 Rd7 4.Qxc6 Kd8 5.Bxe7+ Rxe7 6.Qxa6
± (1.07) Depth: 10/20 00:00:06 3368kN
1.Qd2 Rc8 2.Rc3 Rd8 3.Bg5 Rd7 4.Re3 b4 5.Rcxd3 Qc4 6.Bxe7 Rxd3
± (1.22) Depth: 11/22 00:00:21 10473kN
1.Qd2 Rc8 2.Rc3 Rd8 3.Bg5 Rd7 4.Bxe7 Nxe7 5.Re3 Qb7 6.Rcxd3 Qc6 7.Rd4 Rxd4
8.Qxd4
± (1.40) Depth: 12/24 00:00:45 23357kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.Rc3 Rd8 3.Re3 Rf6 4.b3 Re6 5.Rexd3 Nd4 6.Be3 Qxb3 7.axb3
+- (1.64) Depth: 13/26 00:02:51 91137kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.Rc3 Rd8 3.Re3 Rf6 4.b3 Re6 5.Rexd3 Qxd3 6.Be3
± (1.39) Depth: 14/28 00:06:11 201123kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.b4 Rf6 3.Rc5 Qd7 4.Qc3 Kf8 5.Bg5 Qe8 6.Bxf6
± (1.39) Depth: 14/28 00:12:11 401356kN
1.Rxc6 Qxc6 2.Qxd3 Rf8 3.Bg5 Ra7 4.Qa3 Rd7 5.Bxe7 Qb7
± (1.40) Depth: 14/28 00:18:55 641251kN
1.Rxc6 Qxc6 2.Qxd3 Qc5 3.Qb3 Qb4 4.Qxb4 Kf8 5.Rxe7 a5
+- (1.75) Depth: 14/28 00:19:56 674157kN
(, 20.08.2001)
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Deep Fritz T29c - ,S
r3k2r/4b2p/p1n3pN/1p1q1p2/5B2/3p1P2/PP4PP/2RQR2K w kq - 0 1
Analysis by Deep Fritz T29c:
1.Qd2 Rd8
³ (-0.50) Depth: 2/10 00:00:00
1.Qd2 Rd8 2.b3
³ (-0.53) Depth: 3/9 00:00:00
1.Qd2 Rd8 2.b3
³ (-0.53) Depth: 3/9 00:00:00
1.Qd2 Rd8 2.b3
³ (-0.53) Depth: 3/9 00:00:00
1.Bg5!
³ (-0.50) Depth: 3/9 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bg5!
³ (-0.50) Depth: 3/9 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bg5!
³ (-0.50) Depth: 3/9 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bg5! Ra7 2.f4
³ (-0.28) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bg5! Ra7 2.f4
³ (-0.28) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bg5! Ra7 2.f4
³ (-0.28) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bg5 Ra7 2.Bf6 Rf8
= (0.00) Depth: 4/12 00:00:00 3kN
1.Bg5 Kd7 2.Bxe7 d2 3.Rf1 Nxe7
³ (-0.34) Depth: 5/16 00:00:00 11kN
1.Bg5 Ne5 2.f4 Bxg5 3.Rxe5+ Qxe5 4.fxe5
= (-0.25) Depth: 6/20 00:00:00 39kN
1.Bg5 Ne5 2.f4 Bxg5 3.Rxe5+ Qxe5 4.fxe5 Bxh6
= (-0.25) Depth: 7/20 00:00:00 115kN
1.Qd2!
= (-0.22) Depth: 7/21 00:00:00 183kN
1.Qd2! Rf8 2.Qe3 d2 3.Qxd2 Qxd2 4.Bxd2 Rd8
= (0.00) Depth: 7/26 00:00:00 266kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.Qe3 d2 3.Qxd2 Qxd2 4.Bxd2 Rd8 5.Bf4
= (0.13) Depth: 8/19 00:00:00 399kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.Rc3 Rd8 3.Re3 b4 4.Rcxd3 Qxa2 5.Rxd8+ Nxd8
= (0.13) Depth: 9/25 00:00:01 947kN
1.Bg5!
= (0.16) Depth: 9/25 00:00:01 1367kN
1.Bg5! Ra7 2.Re3 d2 3.Rc2 Rb7 4.Rxd2 Qxa2 5.b4
= (0.22) Depth: 9/25 00:00:01 1755kN
1.Bg5 Kd7 2.Rc3 d2 3.Bxd2 Bd6 4.b3 Rhe8 5.Rce3 Rad8
² (0.31) Depth: 10/26 00:00:03 3280kN
1.Qd2!
² (0.34) Depth: 10/29 00:00:03 3861kN
1.Qd2! Rf8 2.Bg5 Ra7 3.Qc3 d2 4.Bxd2 Rc7 5.Bf4 Rc8
² (0.50) Depth: 10/29 00:00:04 4231kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.Bg5 Ra7 3.Rxc6 Qxc6 4.Qb4 Qc7 5.Bxe7 Qxe7 6.Qd2 Qxe1+
² (0.47) Depth: 11/29 00:00:06 6608kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.Bg5 Ra7 3.Rxc6 Qxc6 4.Qb4 Qd7 5.Bxe7 Qxe7 6.Rxe7+ Rxe7
² (0.56) Depth: 12/29 00:00:12 13657kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.b4 Rf6 3.Rc5 Qd7 4.Qc3 Kd8 5.Bg5 d2 6.Rd1 Rf8
± (0.72) Depth: 13/36 00:00:55 60405kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.b4 a5 3.Re3 g5 4.Rc5 gxf4 5.Rxd5 fxe3 6.Qxd3 axb4
± (1.00) Depth: 14/37 00:02:23 164644kN
1.Rxc6!
± (1.03) Depth: 14/37 00:03:26 243783kN
1.Rxc6! Qxc6 2.Qxd3 Rd8 3.Qe3 Rd7 4.Bg5 Qc7 5.Qe6 Rf8 6.Ng8
± (1.19) Depth: 14/37 00:03:55 280635kN
(, 20.08.2001)
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Deep Junior 6.0 - ,S
r3k2r/4b2p/p1n3pN/1p1q1p2/5B2/3p1P2/PP4PP/2RQR2K w kq - 0 1
Analysis by Deep Junior 6.0:
1.Qd2 Rc8 2.Qe3
² (0.41) Depth: 6 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bg5 Ne5 2.Bxe7 Kxe7
² (0.51) Depth: 6 00:00:00 6kN
1.Bg5 Kf8 2.Bxe7+ Nxe7 3.Rc7 Re8 4.Re3 d2
² (0.44) Depth: 9 00:00:00 99kN
1.Qd2!
± (0.81) Depth: 9 00:00:00 124kN
1.Qd2! Kd7 2.Re3 Ke8 3.Rxd3 Qe6
± (1.35) Depth: 9 00:00:00 152kN
1.Qd2 b4 2.Qe3 Qd7 3.Qb6 Rc8 4.Qxa6 Kf8
± (1.04) Depth: 12 00:00:00 757kN
1.Qd2!
± (1.34) Depth: 15 00:00:03 6275kN
1.Qd2 Rf8 2.a3 Rd8 3.Qc3 d2 4.Bxd2 Kd7 5.Qg7 Rfe8 6.Rcd1
± (1.10) Depth: 18 00:01:44 181542kN
1.b4!
+- (1.64) Depth: 18 00:04:15 188822kN
1.b4 Rc8 2.Rc5 Qd7 3.Bg5 d2 4.Re2 Rc7 5.Bf6 Rf8 6.Bg7 Nxb4 7.Rxc7 Qxc7 8.Bxf8
Kxf8 9.Qxd2
+- (1.85) Depth: 19 00:11:11 1190421kN
(, 20.08.2001)
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max threads set to 2
hash table memory = 48M bytes.
pawn hash table memory = 10M bytes.
5 piece tablebase files found
20386kb of RAM used for TB indices and decompression tables
EGTB cache memory = 16M bytes.
Crafty v18.10 (2 cpus)
White(1): force
White(1): setboard r3k2r/4b2p/p1n3pN/1p1q1p2/5B2/3p1P2/PP4PP/2RQR2K w kq - 0 1
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 | *R| | | | *K| | | *R|
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | | | | | *B| | | *P|
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 | *P| | *N| | | | *P| N |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 | | *P| | *Q| | *P| | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 | | | | | | B | | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 | | | | *P| | P | | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | P | P | | | | | P | P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
1 | | | R | Q | R | | | K |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
a b c d e f g h
White(1): name Administrator
Crafty 18.10 vs Administrator
White(1): time 180000
time remaining: 30:00 (crafty).
White(1): otim 180000
time remaining: 30:00 (opponent).
White(1): go
clearing hash tables
time surplus 0.00 time limit 30:00 (15:00)
nss depth time score variation (1)
starting thread 1
(2) 6-> 0.12 0.79 1. Qd2 Rd8 2. Bg5 Kd7 3. Bxe7 Nxe7
4. b4
7 0.31 1.07 1. Qd2 Rd8 2. Qc3 Kd7 3. Nf7 d2 4.
Nxh8 dxe1=Q+ 5. Rxe1 Kc8
7-> 0.42 1.07 1. Qd2 Rd8 2. Qc3 Kd7 3. Nf7 d2 4.
Nxh8 dxe1=Q+ 5. Rxe1 Kc8
8 1.03 1.24 1. Qd2 b4 2. Bg5 Kd7 3. Bxe7 Nxe7 4.
Qxb4 Rhe8 5. Qd2 Qxa2
(2) 8-> 1.77 1.24 1. Qd2 b4 2. Bg5 Kd7 3. Bxe7 Nxe7 4.
Qxb4 Rhe8 5. Qd2 Qxa2
9 2.42 ++ 1. Qd2!!
9 5.61 1.98 1. Qd2 Kf8 2. Qc3 Nd4 3. Qxd3 Bd6 4.
Be3 Be5 5. Bg5
9-> 6.77 1.98 1. Qd2 Kf8 2. Qc3 Nd4 3. Qxd3 Bd6 4.
Be3 Be5 5. Bg5
10 12.03 -- 1. Qd2
10 15.16 1.49 1. Qd2 Rc8 2. Be5 Rf8 3. Rc3 Rd8 4.
Bg7 b4 5. Rcc1 Rc8 6. Bxf8 Kxf8
(3) 10-> 22.20 1.49 1. Qd2 Rc8 2. Be5 Rf8 3. Rc3 Rd8 4.
Bg7 b4 5. Rcc1 Rc8 6. Bxf8 Kxf8
11 25.81 ++ 1. Qd2!!
(2) 11 1:21 2.03 1. Qd2 Rc8 2. Re3 Rd8 3. Rc3 Kf8 4.
Rexd3 Qxa2 5. Rxd8+ Nxd8 6. Qd4 Rg8
7. Nxg8 Kxg8
11-> 1:30 2.03 1. Qd2 Rc8 2. Re3 Rd8 3. Rc3 Kf8 4.
Rexd3 Qxa2 5. Rxd8+ Nxd8 6. Qd4 Rg8
7. Nxg8 Kxg8
12 2:18 1.93 1. Qd2 Rf8 2. Rc3 Rd8 3. Re3 Rf6 4.
Bg5 Re6 <HT>
12-> 3:02 1.93 1. Qd2 Rf8 2. Rc3 Rd8 3. Re3 Rf6 4.
Bg5 Re6 <HT>
13 4:07 1.85 1. Qd2 Rf8 2. Rxc6 Qxc6 3. Qe3 Qd7
4. Bg5 Ra7 5. Bxe7 Qxe7 6. Qd2 f4 7.
Kg1 Qxe1+ 8. Qxe1+ Re7 9. Qd2
White(1): ?
time=10:00 cpu=203% mat=-1 n=876733731 fh=32% nps=1459k
ext-> chk=69703049 cap=2145942 pp=805966 1rep=4773699 mate=574598
predicted=0 nodes=876733731 evals=120570544
endgame tablebase-> probes done=0 successful=0
hashing-> trans/ref=5% pawn=1% used=99%
SMP-> split=934 stop=134 data=8/64 cpu=20:22 elap=10:00
White(1): Qd2
time used: 10:00
Black(1): quit
execution complete.
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Looks like Gambit Tiger & possibly Junior 7 are the only ones who can get it
quickly. Which is probably obvious, they are the attackers. Crafty sees it,
but relies on black's Rf8 response. Rxc6 is the obvious superior move though, I
think.
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