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Subject: Re: Yet another approach!

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 10:59:50 05/12/98

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On May 12, 1998 at 04:48:31, Hristo wrote:

>Has anybody thought(experimented) about another approach for solving the
>chess game problem?!
>It seems that after all this time one would come up with the conclusion
>that the current algorithms are somewhat going in the wrong direction!
>The programs still play fairly good chess, but ultimately there isn't a
>single program that approaches the solution of the chess game. The
>algorithms based on creating and evaluating a tree of possibly "good"
>moves and *then*(or along the way) applying a filter criteria for fine
>tune the results, seem archaic. The concept of pure algorithm that
>resolves the chess-problem doesn't seem to be in the scope of all these
>extremely smart and knowledgeable people !!!!!



I am not so extremely smart,just enough to understand what extremely
smart people say and not really knowleadgeable in this field, but just
enought to know how easy is to have an strong feeling that all are wrong
and that you are right.I remember with some shame the many times I have
expended lot of paper explaining my ideas that after a while turned to
be not new and original, but just a common place and even a rejected
one. Still, I share with you the feeling  that something is esentially
flawed in the actual way to program chess computers as a tree with nodes
where each of them is evaluated according to an score sorted from a
series of abstracta considerations added like peas and apples, one after
another. But, How could be an alternative way? You need a concepto, a
new vision. You need the periodical table of elements for chess, but we
dont have it. We are also in alchemy times.



The main concern remains
>centered around tests and tournament results and some silly ELO rating.
>Well, then one might ask "How come CraftyX.xx can not win against
>ChessMaster?! Crafty is updated continuously and yet it doesn't appear
>to have a better grip on what is going on, on the chess board! All these
>updates to all these programs ... and the results are still
>unpredictable .... !!??"
>I feel like there is another, much simpler and straight forward approach
>to the chess game. The problem with everyone is that nobody knows the
>correct questions to ask when trying to resolve the Chesss-game.
>
>Have you ever thought of any alternative ways of getting to the bottom
>of this(Chess)?!
>I certainly have. Just don't want to speak too early ... since some of
>you might have been there already ...
>
>Best regards to ALL!
>Hristo.
>
>p.s.
>    What's up with this "jerk" on "alt.games.chess.computer" ... what an
>idiot anyway.
>    ohh yes ... Bob why do you bother answering this stupid bastard?!
>:)))



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