Author: Peter Berger
Date: 15:05:54 08/22/01
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On August 22, 2001 at 09:35:19, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: >Ruy Lopez is very wide, what kind of line you mean? >Generally, it leads to some closed positions which would be bad for both >sides. I see that the advantage that black has (being a computer) is >that it does not hae the initiative, so computers are good defenders >and can do well. White has to do something and generally are long term >plans which computers struggle with. Is that what you mean? Not exactly. I was talking about Tchigorin positions mainly or in fact many of all main lines Ruy Lopez closed except of the Marshall who have in common that Black's plan is to create a queenside attack or advance in the centre ( which is pretty straightforward) while the white have to build up a slow kingside attack which the programs usually fail to achieve. ( Btw the Marshall would be a nice example for exactly the opposite) . >>b.) Many openings that look very promising in computer play are waiting for >>discovery IMHO . Sveshnikov should be well for black in computer matches and how > >Fritz beat Deep Blue Jr with that! There also have been other good results with this one . Very difficult to play for White as a computer IMHO. > >>about 1. e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3. Nd2(c3) de 4. Nxe4 Bf5 ? Computers don't seem to be >>able to play this well with white but do very well with black. > >mmmhhh... It is because they can wait and counterattack? In fact this question is very tough for me as I have the same problem as the compis - I can't really understand the White play either ;-) . Usually both castle queenside . White has loosened his kingside pawns very much ; Black plays c5 and wins .. This is not 100 % serious but I have seen many black wins with this one in comp-comp play that went just like this. >In comp-comp matches, what happen if you prepare a huge book with an opening >like 1.b4? I think is a good idea for an amateur program to play >"anti-professional computer books" > The crucial question is : how do you want to prepare this big book ? Every serious opponent will ( or should) have one line against this one in his book ( you don't know which one though ) . And for an automatically generated book you will have difficulties to find high-quality material. So you will have to invest time. You could invest time in other ( presumably better ) openings instead. Programmers hate to invest time in their opening books anyway . It might work though at a championship anyway against many opponents . Look at the Maastricht games . The books seem to be extremely narrow - Najdorf,Najdorf,Najdorf . But I am not sure the time can't be invested better :-) . I was only babbling a little in yesterday's post after a few beers , a little frustrated - but I really think thoughts about opening books should be exchanged more openly here when it is about the amateurs. The professionals will hide their ideas anyway . Do they advance ? I honestly don't know . But many opening books seem to be much more influenced by the preferences of the book cook than by that of the prog playing ; and this seems to include many of the top of the pops. pete
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