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Subject: Re: AP downloads, ratings and the latest results now online ...

Author: Jeff Lischer

Date: 05:01:56 08/23/01

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On August 23, 2001 at 05:59:28, Andreas Herrmann wrote:

>On August 23, 2001 at 00:20:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 22, 2001 at 21:35:14, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>
>>>my emperiment "Amateurs vs. Professionals" is now over (the right time, WM is
>>>running ... good timing :-)) ).
>>>
>>>You can find all "AP" results in a table in my News Ticker.
>>>You can find all 1.440 games in CBH and PGN and a rating list (all engines are
>>>playing 180 games).
>>>
>>>I have a lot of fun with the AP tournaments, maybe I more fun if Gandalf won
>>>more tourneys :-))
>>>
>>>Amateurs vs. Professionals:
>>>http://www.amateurschach.de/schach/cbase/experiment.htm
>>>
>>>All results available in my News Ticker:
>>>http://www.amateurschach.de/news.htm
>>>
>>>...
>>>
>>>Have now a nice latest WM day.
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>
>>The result prove that the professionals are clearly better than the amatuers.
>>The best amatuer Goliath Light got less points than the worse proffesional
>>Nimzo8.
>>
>>It seems that in a tournament of 180 games the amatuers have no practical chance
>>to win.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Yes in 180 game tournaments (the statistical error is very low), but in a 9 game
>tournament like the WMCCC 2001 there is nearby all possible. In Frank's test,
>the amateurs wins 3 of 20 tournaments. In his tournaments Fritz is the strongest
>engine, but it wins only 4 or 5 times.
>
>Andreas

Also, Tiger was the 2nd strongest engine, but finished tied for 14th-15th in one
tournament -- a tournament won by the 11th strongest SOS. Frank's experiment
really highlights how *anything* can happen in short tournaments like WMCCC.
Thanks for the great job Frank!



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