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Subject: Re: Gromitchess bookcheating (for Vincent DIEPEVEEN)

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 11:48:27 08/23/01

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On August 23, 2001 at 14:42:54, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On August 23, 2001 at 14:36:16, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>Use of commercial books is old hat.  You will find that quite a few amateur
>>programs use the fritz 4 book, and have done so openly for many years.
>
>Yes. This is the key issue. They did so openly. While I find
>it a very weird idea that you can be an amateur and use a
>professional book, lying about it is much worse.
>
>>If it is not spelled out as a rules violation, then it is not wrong to do so.
>
>Right and Wrong are not solely determined by written rules.
>
>>It probably *should* be specified one way or the other.  I doubt that it has
>>been or the problem would not arise.
>
>I agree 100% here.
>
>>At any rate, an entertaining tournament as always.  Shredder has once again
>>risen to the top, and certainly deserves every accolade.
>
>Darn. It almost looks like this thing can't lose :)
>Why are we holding tournaments still :))
>
>>And Gromit has obviously made enormous strides.
>
>With a dark shadow over those 'accomplishments'...

From:
http://213.191.70.91/shope/index.html

We have this:
"GROMIT
by Frank Schneider and Kai Skibbe

Gromit is a very slow engine in nodes/second. The authors prefer better
positional evaluation over higher speed. They are successfull with this concept.
Gromit doesn´t have to hide behind the fast tacticians. Tactical disadvantages
are compensated with clean positional play. It allows less possibilities for the
tacticians to use their strength. Frank Schneider used to develop Gromit on his
own. With the new version he co-operates with Kai Skibbe. They rewrote the
engine completely which did a lot of good to it. It's much stronger already.
kN/s: 30-35, not faster in the endgame. Taktiktest: 90 solved in 10 seconds
average

DM 19,90 | Euro 10,17"

Which I take to mean it is a professional engine [sold for money] and normally
uses the Fritz book anyway n'est ce pas?



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