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Subject: Re: Question to Jeroen: What went wrong with Tiger?

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 10:42:03 08/24/01

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On August 24, 2001 at 13:01:10, Christophe Theron wrote:
>Absolutely.
>
>I also wonder why nobody asked Amir what went wrong with Junior 7 when the SSDF
>match against Tiger began with 5-1 in favor of Tiger...
>
>It seems that people are now educated enough to understand that anything can
>happen even in a 10 games match, but not enough to understand that one game
>means very little. Strange, isn't it?

this has nothing to do with education.
nor with maths. or statistic.
if your program is weaker, or you play against stronger hardware of the
opponent, your chances are lower. its not random.
i would say the chess base teams had stronger programs, faster machines or
they have been prepared better, or they had more luck, if you want.
but its not completely without reason.
take the games. lets replay the tiger games. maybe we understand what has
happened.

>Or maybe it's because the game was played during the WMCCC? Naturally games
>played in these magic events do not follow the basic rules of statistics.

?!? which magic rules of statistics ?? there are no rules. statistic interprets
world. not vice versa.


>People
>expect that a WMCCC game is 100% accurate, and that the strongest program (even
>if it is stronger only by 10 elo points) is going to win.

you believe tiger is stronger than lets say junior, or even shredder ?!


>To the "what went wrong..." question, I think I can answer now: what's wrong is
>that people give so much importance to one game.

but this way you will IMO not make much progress.

>Sorry Harald, but your question has been getting on my nerves. I'm still amazed
>that you asked...

i can pretty well understand that those kind of question are not
easy to stand.
but IMO one has to face the reality.
e.g. i do not believe that rebel century maastricht is a weak program.
but it failed in maastricht.
the games can show why.
also YOUR tiger games can show why.


>    Christophe

losing is not easy to stand.
but there comes the day when you come out of your home, the time was enough to
heal the wounds, and then you have to analyse what was wrong. no matter what
statistics says.




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