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Subject: Re: Tiger - Parsos??

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 12:32:04 08/24/01

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On August 24, 2001 at 15:11:39, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

>On August 24, 2001 at 14:30:05, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 24, 2001 at 14:09:26, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>On August 24, 2001 at 13:52:10, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 24, 2001 at 12:15:36, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Why played Tiger against Parsos first 20. Bb3+? and then 21. Bd5 ....?
>>>>>
>>>>>Here first the game:
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "18th WMCC 6th Olympiad Maastricht "]
>>>>>[Site "?"]
>>>>>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>>>>>[Round "9"]
>>>>>[White "Chess Tiger 14.6, AMD 1.4"]
>>>>>[Black "Parsos, 2x Intel 1.0"]
>>>>>[ECO "C96"]
>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1
>>>>>b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 Bb7 11. b4 Nc4
>>>>>12. a4 d5 13. exd5 e4 14. Ng5 Qxd5 15. Nxe4 Nd6 16. f3
>>>>>Nfxe4 17. fxe4 Qg5 18. d3 Qg6 19. Qd2 f5 20. Bb3+ Kh8
>>>>>21. Bd5 Bh4 22. Bxb7 Bxe1 23. Qxe1 Nxb7 24. axb5 axb5
>>>>>25. Rxa8 Rxa8 26. Nd2 Qd6 27. exf5 Qxd3 28. Qe5 Nd6 29. f6
>>>>>Kg8 30. Kh2 Qf5 31. Qxf5 Nxf5 32. Ne4 Re8 33. Ng3 Nxg3
>>>>>34. Kxg3 Re2 35. Bf4 gxf6 36. Bxc7 Re3+ 37. Kf2 Rxc3
>>>>>38. Bb6 Kf7 39. Bc5 Ke6 40. Bf8 f5 41. Ke2 f4 42. Kf2 Kf5
>>>>>43. Bg7 Rb3 44. Bf8 Ke4 45. Bd6 Kd5 46. Bf8 Kc4 47. Bd6
>>>>>Rxb4 0-1
>>>>>
>>>>>On my P 600 Gambit Tiger 2.0 plays 20. Bb3+ (about after 8 minutes on P600)
>>>>>and 21. Bd5 too, see my analysis with 96 Mb hash:
>>>>>
>>>>>Chess Tiger - Parsos
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]r4r1k/1bp1b1pp/p2n2q1/1p3p2/PP2P3/1BPP3P/3Q2P1/RNB1R1K1 w - - 0 1
>>>>>
>>>>>Analysis by Gambit Tiger 2.0:
>>>>>
>>>>>21.e5 Nf7 22.Bxf7 Qxf7 23.d4 a5 24.bxa5 Rxa5 25.Qb2 Qg6 26.c4 Bh4 27.Rf1 Qg3
>>>>>28.cxb5
>>>>>  ²  (0.46)   deph: 12   00:00:57  8750kN
>>>>>21.e5 Bh4 22.Rf1 f4 23.exd6 f3 24.Rf2 Bxf2+ 25.Qxf2 fxg2 26.Bf4 Qxd3 27.Kh2 Qxd6
>>>>>28.Bxd6 Rxf2
>>>>>  =  (-0.22)   deph: 13   00:02:29  22975kN
>>>>>21.Bd5 Bh4 22.Bxb7 Bxe1 23.Qxe1 Nxb7 24.e5 f4 25.d4 f3 26.Qf2 bxa4 27.Be3 Qe4
>>>>>28.Nd2
>>>>>  µ  (-0.80)   deph: 14   00:12:56  131697kN
>>>>>
>>>>>You can see that the "score" from Tiger is in deep 13 only -0.22 (for move e5),
>>>>>and in deep 14--> - 0.80 (for move Bd5).
>>>>>
>>>>>Why played Tiger then here not 21. e5?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Eduard,
>>>>
>>>> Is this analyse in ChessBase? First impression is that your speed looks slow,
>>>> even for a P 600. This is an analyse from CP with P 800 and -0.64 for 21.e5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>00:00:00.9	0,64	7	74087	e5 Bh4 Rf1 Nf7 d4 Be4
>>>>00:00:00.5	0,56	7	94383	e5 Bh4 Rf1 bxa4 Rxa4 Nb5 Qe2 Qg3
>>>>00:00:01.1	0,44	8	251070	e5 Nf7 Bxf7 Rxf7 e6 Rff8 Qf2 Bd6 axb5
>>>>                                        axb5
>>>>00:00:03.6	0,50	9	567257	e5 Nf7 d4 Bh4 Rf1 bxa4 Bxa4 Be4 Qe2 Qg3
>>>>00:00:07.5	0,40	10	1289063	e5 Nf7 Bxf7 Rxf7 axb5 Bh4 Rf1 Qg3
>>>>00:00:16.8	0,48	11	3051751	e5 Nf7 Bxf7 Rxf7 Rf1 bxa4 Qe2 a5 bxa5
>>>>                                        Bc5+ Kh2 Rxa5 d4
>>>>00:00:41.9	0,08	12	7975059	e5 Bh4 Rf1 f4 exd6 f3 Rf2 Bxf2+ Qxf2
>>>>                                        fxg2 Bf4 Qxd3 Kh2 Qxd6 Bxd6 Rxf2
>>>>
>>>>00:01:14.4	-0,64	13	14822781 e5 Bh4 Rf1 f4 exd6 f3 Rf2 Bxf2+ Qxf2
>>>>                                         fxg2 Bf4 Qxd3 Nd2 Qxc3 Rd1 Qxb4
>>>>
>>>>00:02:48.7	-0,52	13	35775715 Bd5 Bh4 Bxb7 Bxe1 Qxe1 Nxb7 Nd2 fxe4
>>>>                                         Nxe4 Nd6 Nxd6 cxd6 axb5 axb5 Rxa8
>>>>                                         Rxa8 Qf1
>>>>00:04:13.7	-0,62	14	54106201 Bd5 Bh4 Bxb7 Nxb7 e5 Bxe1 Qxe1 f4 d4
>>>>                                         f3 Qf2 a5 bxa5 Rxa5 Be3 Rxa4 Rxa4 bxa4
>>>>
>>>>Sune
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, the analysis was under ChessBase, but under "Lokasoft-GUI" was the analysis
>>>total IDENTICAL (!) with "96Mb" hash - T can do this post!
>>>
>>>I can not understand, why you have a another scores ?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Eduard
>>
>>Do you have both all the game?
>>
>>I know cases when an engine choose a different move when it has all the game and
>>not only the position.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Hello Uri,
>
>this with different I know.
>
>I load also the game, and then I start my analysis. In Maastricht was a game
>played or? :)
>
>Regards,
>Eduard

I now copy/paste "FEN" under Lokasoft, and here is my analysis with GT 2.0, 96
Mb hash, P600:

00:00:57.4	0,46	12	8750788	e5 Nf7 Bxf7 Qxf7 d4 a5 bxa5 Rxa5 Qb2 Qg6 c4 Bh4 Rf1
Qg3 cxb5
00:02:29.5	-0,22	13	22975324	e5 Bh4 Rf1 f4 exd6 f3 Rf2 Bxf2+ Qxf2 fxg2 Bf4 Qxd3
Kh2 Qxd6 Bxd6 Rxf2
00:12:59.2	-0,80	14	131697003	Bd5 Bh4 Bxb7 Bxe1 Qxe1 Nxb7 e5 f4 d4 f3 Qf2 bxa4
Be3 Qe4 Nd2

This is identical with my anylysis under ChessBase!

Eduard



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