Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 12:32:04 08/24/01
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On August 24, 2001 at 15:11:39, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >On August 24, 2001 at 14:30:05, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 24, 2001 at 14:09:26, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >> >>>On August 24, 2001 at 13:52:10, Sune Larsson wrote: >>> >>>>On August 24, 2001 at 12:15:36, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>>> >>>>>Why played Tiger against Parsos first 20. Bb3+? and then 21. Bd5 ....? >>>>> >>>>>Here first the game: >>>>> >>>>>[Event "18th WMCC 6th Olympiad Maastricht "] >>>>>[Site "?"] >>>>>[Date "2001.??.??"] >>>>>[Round "9"] >>>>>[White "Chess Tiger 14.6, AMD 1.4"] >>>>>[Black "Parsos, 2x Intel 1.0"] >>>>>[ECO "C96"] >>>>>[Result "0-1"] >>>>> >>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 >>>>>b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 Bb7 11. b4 Nc4 >>>>>12. a4 d5 13. exd5 e4 14. Ng5 Qxd5 15. Nxe4 Nd6 16. f3 >>>>>Nfxe4 17. fxe4 Qg5 18. d3 Qg6 19. Qd2 f5 20. Bb3+ Kh8 >>>>>21. Bd5 Bh4 22. Bxb7 Bxe1 23. Qxe1 Nxb7 24. axb5 axb5 >>>>>25. Rxa8 Rxa8 26. Nd2 Qd6 27. exf5 Qxd3 28. Qe5 Nd6 29. f6 >>>>>Kg8 30. Kh2 Qf5 31. Qxf5 Nxf5 32. Ne4 Re8 33. Ng3 Nxg3 >>>>>34. Kxg3 Re2 35. Bf4 gxf6 36. Bxc7 Re3+ 37. Kf2 Rxc3 >>>>>38. Bb6 Kf7 39. Bc5 Ke6 40. Bf8 f5 41. Ke2 f4 42. Kf2 Kf5 >>>>>43. Bg7 Rb3 44. Bf8 Ke4 45. Bd6 Kd5 46. Bf8 Kc4 47. Bd6 >>>>>Rxb4 0-1 >>>>> >>>>>On my P 600 Gambit Tiger 2.0 plays 20. Bb3+ (about after 8 minutes on P600) >>>>>and 21. Bd5 too, see my analysis with 96 Mb hash: >>>>> >>>>>Chess Tiger - Parsos >>>>> >>>>>[D]r4r1k/1bp1b1pp/p2n2q1/1p3p2/PP2P3/1BPP3P/3Q2P1/RNB1R1K1 w - - 0 1 >>>>> >>>>>Analysis by Gambit Tiger 2.0: >>>>> >>>>>21.e5 Nf7 22.Bxf7 Qxf7 23.d4 a5 24.bxa5 Rxa5 25.Qb2 Qg6 26.c4 Bh4 27.Rf1 Qg3 >>>>>28.cxb5 >>>>> ² (0.46) deph: 12 00:00:57 8750kN >>>>>21.e5 Bh4 22.Rf1 f4 23.exd6 f3 24.Rf2 Bxf2+ 25.Qxf2 fxg2 26.Bf4 Qxd3 27.Kh2 Qxd6 >>>>>28.Bxd6 Rxf2 >>>>> = (-0.22) deph: 13 00:02:29 22975kN >>>>>21.Bd5 Bh4 22.Bxb7 Bxe1 23.Qxe1 Nxb7 24.e5 f4 25.d4 f3 26.Qf2 bxa4 27.Be3 Qe4 >>>>>28.Nd2 >>>>> µ (-0.80) deph: 14 00:12:56 131697kN >>>>> >>>>>You can see that the "score" from Tiger is in deep 13 only -0.22 (for move e5), >>>>>and in deep 14--> - 0.80 (for move Bd5). >>>>> >>>>>Why played Tiger then here not 21. e5? >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Eduard, >>>> >>>> Is this analyse in ChessBase? First impression is that your speed looks slow, >>>> even for a P 600. This is an analyse from CP with P 800 and -0.64 for 21.e5 >>>> >>>> >>>>00:00:00.9 0,64 7 74087 e5 Bh4 Rf1 Nf7 d4 Be4 >>>>00:00:00.5 0,56 7 94383 e5 Bh4 Rf1 bxa4 Rxa4 Nb5 Qe2 Qg3 >>>>00:00:01.1 0,44 8 251070 e5 Nf7 Bxf7 Rxf7 e6 Rff8 Qf2 Bd6 axb5 >>>> axb5 >>>>00:00:03.6 0,50 9 567257 e5 Nf7 d4 Bh4 Rf1 bxa4 Bxa4 Be4 Qe2 Qg3 >>>>00:00:07.5 0,40 10 1289063 e5 Nf7 Bxf7 Rxf7 axb5 Bh4 Rf1 Qg3 >>>>00:00:16.8 0,48 11 3051751 e5 Nf7 Bxf7 Rxf7 Rf1 bxa4 Qe2 a5 bxa5 >>>> Bc5+ Kh2 Rxa5 d4 >>>>00:00:41.9 0,08 12 7975059 e5 Bh4 Rf1 f4 exd6 f3 Rf2 Bxf2+ Qxf2 >>>> fxg2 Bf4 Qxd3 Kh2 Qxd6 Bxd6 Rxf2 >>>> >>>>00:01:14.4 -0,64 13 14822781 e5 Bh4 Rf1 f4 exd6 f3 Rf2 Bxf2+ Qxf2 >>>> fxg2 Bf4 Qxd3 Nd2 Qxc3 Rd1 Qxb4 >>>> >>>>00:02:48.7 -0,52 13 35775715 Bd5 Bh4 Bxb7 Bxe1 Qxe1 Nxb7 Nd2 fxe4 >>>> Nxe4 Nd6 Nxd6 cxd6 axb5 axb5 Rxa8 >>>> Rxa8 Qf1 >>>>00:04:13.7 -0,62 14 54106201 Bd5 Bh4 Bxb7 Nxb7 e5 Bxe1 Qxe1 f4 d4 >>>> f3 Qf2 a5 bxa5 Rxa5 Be3 Rxa4 Rxa4 bxa4 >>>> >>>>Sune >>> >>> >>>Yes, the analysis was under ChessBase, but under "Lokasoft-GUI" was the analysis >>>total IDENTICAL (!) with "96Mb" hash - T can do this post! >>> >>>I can not understand, why you have a another scores ? >>> >>>Regards, >>>Eduard >> >>Do you have both all the game? >> >>I know cases when an engine choose a different move when it has all the game and >>not only the position. >> >>Uri > >Hello Uri, > >this with different I know. > >I load also the game, and then I start my analysis. In Maastricht was a game >played or? :) > >Regards, >Eduard I now copy/paste "FEN" under Lokasoft, and here is my analysis with GT 2.0, 96 Mb hash, P600: 00:00:57.4 0,46 12 8750788 e5 Nf7 Bxf7 Qxf7 d4 a5 bxa5 Rxa5 Qb2 Qg6 c4 Bh4 Rf1 Qg3 cxb5 00:02:29.5 -0,22 13 22975324 e5 Bh4 Rf1 f4 exd6 f3 Rf2 Bxf2+ Qxf2 fxg2 Bf4 Qxd3 Kh2 Qxd6 Bxd6 Rxf2 00:12:59.2 -0,80 14 131697003 Bd5 Bh4 Bxb7 Bxe1 Qxe1 Nxb7 e5 f4 d4 f3 Qf2 bxa4 Be3 Qe4 Nd2 This is identical with my anylysis under ChessBase! Eduard
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