Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 01:49:34 08/25/01
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On August 25, 2001 at 03:51:31, Harald Faber wrote: >On August 25, 2001 at 00:07:39, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On August 24, 2001 at 19:14:34, Harald Faber wrote: >> >>>On August 24, 2001 at 12:33:26, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On August 24, 2001 at 11:41:47, Harald Faber wrote: >>>> >>>>>With these losses it is justified that Tiger didn't become single world >>>>>champion. What is your explanation for this result? Did you play GT in >>>>>aggressive mode? What made Tiger lose especially the last game vs. an amateur? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I can answer your question if you answer mine: >>>> >>>>When you flip a coin, why is it head sometimes, and some other time it is tail? >>>> >>>> Christophe >>> >>>I hoped you wouldn't answer that way. >>>1st: IMO Tiger is the strongest program available, even if slightly ahead of the >>>others. >>>2nd: I am not disappointed about the Tiger result as you may suppose. >>>3rd: I am only curious how the rock solid and tactical safe Tiger could lose a) >>>vs. SOS (I'd have bet a lot that at least a draw is the worst result the Tiger >>>plays vs. an amateur) and b) HOW this could happen. Tiger did not really play as >>>usual. >>>4th: IMO the loss vs. DeepJunior was a desaster and I am astonished about >>>Tiger's play in that game. >>> >>>Why am I curious and astonished? Because I have seen *many* SUPERIOUR games >>>Tiger played. Of course he loses from time to time, but not vs. anyone and >>>especially Jeroen's opening preparation usually gives Tiger some advantage. That >>>makes me wonder. >>> >>>If you say "Statistics" now, well, accepted, but not really satisfied nor >>>convinced. Although it would suit to the explanation why Gromit placed so >>>high... >> >> >> >>Statistics, period. >> >>Version 14.6 is not a risky attempt to create some kind of monster. It is built >>upon Chess Tiger 14.0 and Gambit Tiger 2.0, and has an even safer selectivity >>system. >> >>If you prefer it is Gambit Tiger 2.0 with a slightly better search. >> >>Let it play on the SSDF and it would achieve a better performance than Gambit >>Tiger 2.0. >> >> >> >> >>>Keep on your excellent work, I didn't mean to attack you, your program nor >>>anyone else from the Tiger team. If you understood it that way, I feel sorry for >>>this misunderstanding. >> >> >>I did not feel that was an attack, but simply the wrong question to ask. >>Especially from someone who has played a lot of chess matches and who should >>know that anything can happen in a game... >> >>If you look only at the 7 first rounds of the WMCCC, you conclude that this >>Tiger is the best program around. If you only look at the 2 last rounds, you >>conclude it's a piece of shit. >> >>Bottom line: please do not conclude anything. >> >> Christophe > >You still don't get my point. I conclude nothing. i only wondered that Tiger >could lose against SOS which I did not expect due to so many games I have seen >Tiger play and win. So in spite of statistics it made me wonder anyway. And I >was surprised HOW Tiger lost vs. Junior. Only these two points, nothing more, >nothing less. OK, let's put it into the category "bad luck" like Fritz lost to >ZChess last tourney or so. I remember Paris where Fritz ended 16th (or so) and 2 months later topped the Swedish list. Sometimes you have a bad tournament, it is as simple as that. Ed
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