Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 03:18:52 08/25/01
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On August 24, 2001 at 17:23:01, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 24, 2001 at 16:38:19, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > >>On August 24, 2001 at 16:22:35, K. Burcham wrote: >> >> >>> >>>Engine: Shredder 5 >>>by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen >>> >>> 8.01 0:01 +1.39 1.e5 Bh4 2.Re2 f4 3.exd6 f3 4.Re4 f2+ 5.Kf1 Bxe4 6.dxe4 >>>Qxd6 (307.873) 184.2 >>> 9.01 0:03 +1.46 1.e5 Bh4 2.Re2 f4 3.exd6 f3 4.Re4 f2+ 5.Kf1 Qxg2+ 6.Kxg2 >>>f1Q+ 7.Kh2 Bxe4 8.dxe4 cxd6 9.axb5 axb5 10.Rxa8 Rxa8 (689.668) 189.1 >>> 10.01 0:09 +1.25 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rf1 Nf7 3.d4 Ng5 4.Qe3 Ne4 5.Ra2 Rae8 >>>(1.721.439) 190.2 >>> 11.01 0:16 +1.00-- 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rf1 Nf7 3.d4 Ng5 4.Qe3 f4 5.Qd2 Nf3+ 6.Kh1 >>>(3.103.212) 189.2 >>> 11.01 0:20 +0.50-- 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rf1 f4 3.exd6 f3 4.Rf2 Bxf2+ 5.Qxf2 fxg2 >>>6.axb5 Qxd3 7.bxa6 Rxf2 8.dxc7 (3.908.308) 188.3 >>> 11.01 0:39 +0.50 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rd1 Nf7 3.Bxf7 Qxf7 4.axb5 axb5 5.Rxa8 Rxa8 >>>6.Qe2 Be4 7.Bb2 (7.454.018) 187.9 >>> 12.01 1:24 +0.59 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rd1 Nf7 3.Bxf7 Qxf7 4.axb5 axb5 5.Rxa8 Rxa8 >>>6.Qe2 Ra6 7.Rf1 Qg6 (15.681.071) 186.4 >>> 13.01 2:19 +0.34-- 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rd1 bxa4 3.Rxa4 f4 4.exd6 f3 5.g4 f2+ 6.Kf1 >>>Rfe8 7.d4 Re1+ 8.Qxe1 fxe1B 9.Rxe1 Qxb1 (25.756.300) 184.6 >>> 13.01 3:54 -0.16-- 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rd1 f4 3.exd6 f3 4.Kf1 f2 5.axb5 Bxg2+ 6.Ke2 >>>axb5 7.Rxa8 (43.306.903) 184.4 >>> 13.01 35:29 -0.99 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rf1 f4 3.Bd1 Nf5 4.Bf3 Qb6+ 5.d4 Ne3 6.Qe2 Nxf1 >>>7.Qxf1 Bxf3 8.Qxf3 Rae8 9.Qe4 Bg3 (385.718.130) 181.1 >>> 13.03 39:23 -0.98++ 1.Bd5 Bh4 2.Re2 Bxd5 3.exd5 Bf2+ 4.Kxf2 Ne4+ 5.dxe4 fxe4+ >>>6.Ke1 Rf1+ 7.Kxf1 Qxg2+ 8.Rxg2 Rf8+ 9.Kg1 (429.625.973) 181.7 >>> 13.03 43:43 -0.97 1.Bd5 Bh4 2.Re2 c6 3.exf5 Rxf5 4.Be4 Nxe4 5.dxe4 Rf3 6.Kh2 >>>(477.152.414) 181.8 >>> 14.01 63:18 -1.22-- 1.Bd5 Bh4 2.Re2 c6 3.exf5 Nxf5 4.Bb3 Ng3 5.Re1 Rae8 >>>6.Rxe8 Qxe8 7.a5 Rf1+ 8.Kh2 Ne2 (691.808.541) 182.1 >>> 14.01 71:01 -1.28 1.Bd5 Bh4 2.Bxb7 Bxe1 3.Qxe1 Nxb7 4.axb5 axb5 5.Rxa8 Rxa8 >>>6.Na3 Qb6+ 7.d4 fxe4 (778.057.412) 182.5 >>>best move: Bb3-d5 time: 78:29.582 min n/s: 182.076 nodes: 857.503.017 >>> >>> >>>kburcham >> >>After move Bb3???, was white lost this is clear! both Bd5 and e5 losing, other >>moves too! My question was not whether e5 or Bd5 is better move. >> >>In my question me interest only, why white play a move with negativ score, Bd5 >>with -0.80, and not e5 only -0.22 ? >> >>Eduard > >The -0.22 was at depth 13 when the -0.80 was at depth 14 so these scores cannot >be compared. > >Tiger did not give score for e5 at depth 14 and I guess it only saw that it was >bad without an exact score and only knew that the score is worse than -0.8 > >Uri Ok, I understand now - thanks. But from a analysis (for an "normal" human game!) I will know what, say me a program for move "Y" and for move "X" in deep A+B+C. Tiger say here not the score for e5 in deep 14, only the score for Bd5. Other programs gives better (and more) variations than the Tiger, or not? (sorry for my bad english, in german I can this besser articulate!) Eduard
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