Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba
Date: 10:10:09 08/25/01
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On August 25, 2001 at 06:18:52, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >On August 24, 2001 at 17:23:01, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 24, 2001 at 16:38:19, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >> >>>On August 24, 2001 at 16:22:35, K. Burcham wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Engine: Shredder 5 >>>>by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen >>>> >>>> 8.01 0:01 +1.39 1.e5 Bh4 2.Re2 f4 3.exd6 f3 4.Re4 f2+ 5.Kf1 Bxe4 6.dxe4 >>>>Qxd6 (307.873) 184.2 >>>> 9.01 0:03 +1.46 1.e5 Bh4 2.Re2 f4 3.exd6 f3 4.Re4 f2+ 5.Kf1 Qxg2+ 6.Kxg2 >>>>f1Q+ 7.Kh2 Bxe4 8.dxe4 cxd6 9.axb5 axb5 10.Rxa8 Rxa8 (689.668) 189.1 >>>> 10.01 0:09 +1.25 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rf1 Nf7 3.d4 Ng5 4.Qe3 Ne4 5.Ra2 Rae8 >>>>(1.721.439) 190.2 >>>> 11.01 0:16 +1.00-- 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rf1 Nf7 3.d4 Ng5 4.Qe3 f4 5.Qd2 Nf3+ 6.Kh1 >>>>(3.103.212) 189.2 >>>> 11.01 0:20 +0.50-- 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rf1 f4 3.exd6 f3 4.Rf2 Bxf2+ 5.Qxf2 fxg2 >>>>6.axb5 Qxd3 7.bxa6 Rxf2 8.dxc7 (3.908.308) 188.3 >>>> 11.01 0:39 +0.50 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rd1 Nf7 3.Bxf7 Qxf7 4.axb5 axb5 5.Rxa8 Rxa8 >>>>6.Qe2 Be4 7.Bb2 (7.454.018) 187.9 >>>> 12.01 1:24 +0.59 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rd1 Nf7 3.Bxf7 Qxf7 4.axb5 axb5 5.Rxa8 Rxa8 >>>>6.Qe2 Ra6 7.Rf1 Qg6 (15.681.071) 186.4 >>>> 13.01 2:19 +0.34-- 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rd1 bxa4 3.Rxa4 f4 4.exd6 f3 5.g4 f2+ 6.Kf1 >>>>Rfe8 7.d4 Re1+ 8.Qxe1 fxe1B 9.Rxe1 Qxb1 (25.756.300) 184.6 >>>> 13.01 3:54 -0.16-- 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rd1 f4 3.exd6 f3 4.Kf1 f2 5.axb5 Bxg2+ 6.Ke2 >>>>axb5 7.Rxa8 (43.306.903) 184.4 >>>> 13.01 35:29 -0.99 1.e5 Bh4 2.Rf1 f4 3.Bd1 Nf5 4.Bf3 Qb6+ 5.d4 Ne3 6.Qe2 Nxf1 >>>>7.Qxf1 Bxf3 8.Qxf3 Rae8 9.Qe4 Bg3 (385.718.130) 181.1 >>>> 13.03 39:23 -0.98++ 1.Bd5 Bh4 2.Re2 Bxd5 3.exd5 Bf2+ 4.Kxf2 Ne4+ 5.dxe4 fxe4+ >>>>6.Ke1 Rf1+ 7.Kxf1 Qxg2+ 8.Rxg2 Rf8+ 9.Kg1 (429.625.973) 181.7 >>>> 13.03 43:43 -0.97 1.Bd5 Bh4 2.Re2 c6 3.exf5 Rxf5 4.Be4 Nxe4 5.dxe4 Rf3 6.Kh2 >>>>(477.152.414) 181.8 >>>> 14.01 63:18 -1.22-- 1.Bd5 Bh4 2.Re2 c6 3.exf5 Nxf5 4.Bb3 Ng3 5.Re1 Rae8 >>>>6.Rxe8 Qxe8 7.a5 Rf1+ 8.Kh2 Ne2 (691.808.541) 182.1 >>>> 14.01 71:01 -1.28 1.Bd5 Bh4 2.Bxb7 Bxe1 3.Qxe1 Nxb7 4.axb5 axb5 5.Rxa8 Rxa8 >>>>6.Na3 Qb6+ 7.d4 fxe4 (778.057.412) 182.5 >>>>best move: Bb3-d5 time: 78:29.582 min n/s: 182.076 nodes: 857.503.017 >>>> >>>> >>>>kburcham >>> >>>After move Bb3???, was white lost this is clear! both Bd5 and e5 losing, other >>>moves too! My question was not whether e5 or Bd5 is better move. >>> >>>In my question me interest only, why white play a move with negativ score, Bd5 >>>with -0.80, and not e5 only -0.22 ? >>> >>>Eduard >> >>The -0.22 was at depth 13 when the -0.80 was at depth 14 so these scores cannot >>be compared. >> >>Tiger did not give score for e5 at depth 14 and I guess it only saw that it was >>bad without an exact score and only knew that the score is worse than -0.8 >> >>Uri > >Ok, I understand now - thanks. > >But from a analysis (for an "normal" human game!) I will know what, say me a >program for move "Y" and for move "X" in deep A+B+C. Tiger say here not the >score for e5 in deep 14, only the score for Bd5. Other programs gives better >(and more) variations than the Tiger, or not? > >(sorry for my bad english, in german I can this besser articulate!) > >Eduard Hi Eduard, du kannst immer zweisprachige Mitteilungen schreiben! Zuerst auf Deutsch, dann auf Englisch. Das ist was ich empfehle, wenn du dich unsicher fühlst. Grüße, José (:
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