Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 03:36:20 08/28/01
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On August 28, 2001 at 06:22:29, Peter Berger wrote: >On August 28, 2001 at 04:33:44, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: As i said people focus too much upon blitz instead of a serious level. Berger here shows exactly what i mean by "search depths in blitz say nothing". Here the output from the WMCC diep at this position: 00:01 0 0 7048 (916) 5 0.166 Re4-e6 Kd6-c7 Bf5-e4 Kc7-b6 Re6-e7 Ne8-c7 00:01 0 0 10755 (916) 6 0.356 Re4-e6 Kd6-c7 Bf5-e4 Kc7-b6 Re6-e7 Ne8-c7 Re7-d7 00:01 0 0 24119 (2717) 7 0.121 Re4-e6 Kd6-c7 Bf5-e4 Kc7-b6 Re6-e7 Ne8-c7 Re7-d7 b5-b4 00:02 0 0 68835 (3713) 8 0.246 Re4-e6 Kd6-c7 Bf5-e4 Kc7-b6 Re6-e7 Ne8-c7 Kf4-e3 f6-f5 Re7-d7 00:02 0 0 162479 (8858) 9 0.431 Re4-e6 Kd6-c7 Bf5-e4 Kc7-b6 Re6-e7 Ne8-c7 Re7-d7 b5-b4 Kf4-f5 Rd8-g8 00:05 0 0 431936 (37973) 10 0.313 Re4-e6 Kd6-c7 Bf5-e4 Kc7-b8 Re6-e7 Ne8-c7 Kf4- e3 f6-f5 Be4-f3 Rd8-e8 Re7xe8 Nc7xe8 00:29 0 0 4544254 (943137) 11 -0.282 Re4-e6 Kd6-c5 Bf5-e4 Ne8-d6 Be4-g2 Rd8-e8 R e6xe8 Nd6xe8 Kf4-f5 b5-b4 Kf5-g6 Kc5-d4 Kg6-f7 Ne8-d6 Kf7xg7 ++ e4-d4 00:31 0 0 4990064 (1001056) 11 -0.049 Re4-d4 Kd6-c7 Bf5-d7 Ne8-d6 Rd4-b4 Kc7-b6 Rb4-d4 Nd6-c4 Rd4-d5 b5-b4 Rd5-d4 b4-b3 a2xb3 ++ f5-d7 00:34 0 0 5585175 (1165027) 11 -0.001 Bf5-d7 Ne8-c7 Kf4-f5 Rd8-b8 Kf5-g6 b5-b4 K g6xg7 b4-b3 a2xb3 Rb8xb3 Kg7xf6 Nc7-d5 Kf6-g7 00:38 0 0 6328517 (1243771) 12 0.002 Bf5-d7 Ne8-c7 Kf4-f5 Rd8-b8 Re4-b4 Kd6-e7 R b4-g4 Ke7-f7 Rg4-d4 Rb8-b6 Rd4-e4 b5-b4 00:53 0 0 8932792 (1643286) 13 0.004 Bf5-d7 Ne8-c7 Kf4-f5 Rd8-b8 Re4-b4 Nc7-a6 R b4-b1 b5-b4 Kf5-g6 b4-b3 a2xb3 a3-a2 Rb1-d1 Kd6-e5 01:32 0 0 16303217 (2543814) 14 0.001 Bf5-d7 Ne8-c7 Kf4-f5 Rd8-b8 Re4-b4 Nc7-a6 So it doesn't play Re6 at all. In short people shouldn't trust too much upon blitz level to see how strong an engine is! >>playing passive against diep is not the way to play against it, >>it will find a positional pattern and win! >> >Or maybe : playing passive against diep is just the right way to go as , it will >commit some tactical suicicide sooner or later and lose ! ;) > >Nice little example ( just because I analyzed it this morning ): > >[D]3rn3/6p1/2Pk1p1p/1p3B1P/4RK2/p5P1/P7/8 w - - 0 1 > >Here Diep played in an even position 72. Re6?? Kd5! 73. Rxe8?? . This was from a >game with 45/10 time control and Diep took more than a minute to come up with >this. > >Diep is a strong program but your claims sometimes get on the nerves a little. >Looking at recent games at the public championships or the performance of your >account diep on ICC with games 45 minutes and longer definitely doesn't suggest >that Diep has only problems with its opening book.
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