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Subject: Re: Tiger doesn't understand-Try tiger12.0 it understands very well!!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:26:10 08/28/01

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On August 27, 2001 at 16:50:36, robert flesher wrote:

>Tiger 12.0 running on a mere pentium 850mhz with 256 mega of ram Sees that if
>white exchanges both rooks followed by moving the king and playing b4 and a4
>wins. Anyone who still has tiger 12.0 should be able to confirm this. I have
>gambit2.0 and tiger 14.0, but as ive posted before i prefer tiger12.0.


What I am trying to ask is this:

1.  from the original position, does CT understand that trading all the
rooks is bad?  IE a 5-6 ply search should let it see the rooks coming off.
And after that PV/score is displayed, does it show white is winning?

2.  After playing the moves that trade the rooks off, there are no pieces
left.  It is pretty easy to search to 20 plies here, and that is more than
enough to see that white queenside majority turning into a white outside
passed pawn.  Does it realize the outside passer is winning?

If it doesn't realize white is winning after searching just deeply enough to
see the pieces coming off, then it is going to have trouble in these kinds of
endings, which are pretty common.  If it does realize white is winning in case
2, that means it probably understands the outside passer, or at least it knows
that one side having a passer is probably winning.

The more interesting question is "does it understand that the white majority is
_also_ winning if there are no pieces left, because the majority will turn into
a distant passer later in the game"???



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