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Subject: Re: Tiger doesn't understand-Try tiger12.0 it understands very well!!!

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 09:04:00 08/28/01

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On August 28, 2001 at 09:26:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 27, 2001 at 16:50:36, robert flesher wrote:
>
>>Tiger 12.0 running on a mere pentium 850mhz with 256 mega of ram Sees that if
>>white exchanges both rooks followed by moving the king and playing b4 and a4
>>wins. Anyone who still has tiger 12.0 should be able to confirm this. I have
>>gambit2.0 and tiger 14.0, but as ive posted before i prefer tiger12.0.
>
>
>What I am trying to ask is this:
>
>1.  from the original position, does CT understand that trading all the
>rooks is bad?  IE a 5-6 ply search should let it see the rooks coming off.
>And after that PV/score is displayed, does it show white is winning?
>
>2.  After playing the moves that trade the rooks off, there are no pieces
>left.  It is pretty easy to search to 20 plies here, and that is more than
>enough to see that white queenside majority turning into a white outside
>passed pawn.  Does it realize the outside passer is winning?
>
>If it doesn't realize white is winning after searching just deeply enough to
>see the pieces coming off, then it is going to have trouble in these kinds of
>endings, which are pretty common.  If it does realize white is winning in case
>2, that means it probably understands the outside passer, or at least it knows
>that one side having a passer is probably winning.
>
>The more interesting question is "does it understand that the white majority is
>_also_ winning if there are no pieces left, because the majority will turn into
>a distant passer later in the game"???


My brief experiments show that the answer is "No" to 1 and "Yes" to 2 for both
current Tigers and for Fritz 6 & Junior 6.



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