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Subject: Re: crafty at the internet vs diep

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:08:48 05/13/98

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On May 13, 1998 at 20:15:31, Don Dailey wrote:

>On May 13, 1998 at 17:57:10, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On May 13, 1998 at 16:20:50, Don Dailey wrote:
>>
>>>From a pure software standpoint, is Crafty a better program than Blitz?
>>>Please don't consider the engineering factors like cray assembler or
>>>special highly hardware dependent things.
>>
>>I've been watching Bob's brain during the development of Crafty.  He's
>>learned so much that it has to be better.
>>
>>He's gotten like 50,000 games with Crafty, plus the help of a bunch of
>>people who will point out mistakes.
>>
>>But I'll let him answer now, if he likes.
>>
>>bruce
>
>
>I'm assuming it's stronger too, but I want to hear his analysis.  For
>instance I think Cray Blitz was full width but I'm not sure.  I don't
>think he could spend as much time with Blitz either but I'm not sure
>about this either.
>
>- Don



CB had three "pieces" of search:  (1) full width to 10 plies;  (2)
selective
stuff for 4-6 more plies; (3) quiescence search with checks, captures,
out-of-check to detect mate, etc.  Crafty has full-width to 12 plies,
plus
a capture-only quiescence search.  So they are different... but similar.
 I
used the same things like out of check extension, recapture, pawn push
and
one-legal-move, plus singular extensions that are not currently in
crafty
but which might show up real soon.

CB's main fault was lack of test time.  Of course, making the many
friends
I have on ICC has helped, Roman in particular... he is currently working
on
beating against crafty trying yermo's favorite openings to see how it
will
respond.  I hardly ever got GM advice before... now I have about all I
can
stand.  :)

And never underestimate the advantage of playing 20-30 GM games per day,
7 days a week, 365 days per year...  That is a *huge* plus for those of
us that can do this...



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