Author: Odd Gunnar Malin
Date: 03:00:43 08/29/01
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On August 28, 2001 at 16:07:52, Victor Zakharov wrote: >>>On August 28, 2001 at 12:04:09, Slater Wold wrote: >>> >>>>Also, whenever using a UCI engine, I cannot kibitz the eval to ICC. I am unsure >>>>if you are aware of this either. > >Ok, I am notified. > >>Could you please encourage your beta-testers to test this ICC interface when >>playing with an engine before you make a new path. There is more bug's in there >>but I have not time to give a full bug report. I tried to use it 'as it is' but >>had to switch back to Winboard after a few games. Beside for the missing inline >>comment there also was a 'hang' in one game (the program and ICC connection was >>not hanging) when I tried to change som hello message. The time control came up >>with wrong times on the next game an nothing else happend. > >Try to be more concrete. What was the engine when you faced with the problem? >And could you reproduce one of them. Well, this was just a request if you could pass it through your beta testers. I was just using this future temporally when I had some problem with a book builder utility. I have not time to do any more tests right now. >Surely it is better to send e-mail to me >with detailes. This forum is not for technical problems discussing. > I did send some bug reports the first week after I get CA 6.0 through your bug report page on Convekta’s site, but I did not receive any response in return. At least I was expecting this multimedia DLL to be made downloadable within few days. So when I saw that you answered here, I thought I should give it a try. >CA6 is very complex system and even ten beta testers are unable to test all >modes with all options. Don't forget that any changes demand repeitive testing. >Possibly Microsoft with it's resources is able to provide scientific testing, >but not a chess software company. > >And when a thousand of users receives the program every has a chance to catch a >problem. And every user has his point of view what is the main thing in the >program. And it is very dificult to provide equal glance for everyone in a >moment. I am only sure that all principal modes are tested and proven. I was not talking about main thing. As chess database program I’m more than happy with CA. > >The latest problem was connected that UCI engines were not stable on ICC. All >was Ok on developer computers. But every user computer has some peculiarities >and we were due to consider UCI code once more and provide it with more >stability. > ?? Have you not got any report on this when using Crafty or Winboard engines? I have not tried the Tiger’s so I don’t know about them. >>Also this Web export future has some strange look. >>In DHTML export no matter if you set the chess symbols to not CA-font, it is >>coming up as CA font (cryptical letter) in comments. >>It is not easy eiter to get a nice look if you have both comments and variations >>in the game. >>If you have variations in the game and turn this of in print option, it still >>shows this in between characters ([ ; ] etc.). > >This is known and easy to fix. > >>Another question >> >>Since your frequently use of this CA-fonts in WEB export, it's also used on the >>Convekta's site. Is it allowed to have this font as download or is the web >>output only supposed to be viewed by CA users? > >I don't see a problem if CA user will provide fonts for downloading from his/her >Web page created by Chess Assistant. Surely fonts are not allowed to distribute >with commercial products without Convekta permission. > At least something fruitful came out of this :) >>Please take your time with the next patch so you could get rid of this bug's, >>but not so long as the CA 5.2 is taking (Isn't it 15 month since it was first >>annonced). > >We will make all possbile to satisfy all the users with our product. Beleive me >it is not simple, but inspiration from satisfied users is much more valuable. > Sorry that you disliked me contribution to this thread. It was not an attack on the programmer, it’s a well know fact that the programmer is the least suitable to test his program. Maybe a hidden attack on your beta testers :) Odd Gunnar Malin
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