Author: Adam Oellermann
Date: 05:28:45 08/29/01
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On August 28, 2001 at 10:38:50, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On August 28, 2001 at 07:08:47, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 28, 2001 at 06:23:26, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On August 28, 2001 at 04:36:23, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On August 28, 2001 at 04:15:54, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 27, 2001 at 17:07:10, Roy Eassa wrote: >>>>> >>>>>but this is exactly the problem, $100M is not real to share with >>>>>a bunch of persons. >>>>> >>>>>Note that a programmer earns like $100k a year, kure is both programmer >>>>>AND working for chessbase. european salaries are lower than in the US, >>>>>so he gets probably way less than $100k a year. A programmer in europe >>>>>is about $40k a year (pretty little nah?), and that can double if they >>>>>are real good. >>>> >>>>The programmers that people talked about are not from USA and >>>>I do not know about one programmer from USA who earns much from chess >>>>programming because the best chess programs from USA that I know >>>>(Crafty and Ferret) are not commercial programs. >>>> >>>>it is better to earn 1.6M$ now then earning 40K$ a year because >>>>1.6M$ now can be translated to more than 40k$ per year. >>>> >>>>40k$ a year is not pretty little and most people in Israel >>>>earn less than that. >>> >>>>I guess that even if Frans morsh earns 100K$ per year today he is going to be >>>>happy to earn 40K$ per year for >>> >>>I do not know what Frans Morsch earns, i don't even know what >>>royalty % he gets, but suppose chessbase sells for >>> >>>$10M worth of fritz (especially with kramnik in mind) then >>>how much does a programmer get from that? >>> >>>Well i have heart different fees, but let's say he gets 25% of that. >>> >>>That's $10M / 4 = 2.5M$ the coming year. >>> >>>Best regards, >>>Vincent >> >>Something in the assumption seems to be wrong because >>I know that christophe or Amir do not live from computer chess. >> >>If you are right and programmers can get 25% of the money >>and if chessbase can really get 10M$ in the next year >>only from Fritz then >>it means that Junior or tiger cannot get >>even 10% of the sales of Fritz in the next year. > >Everything is perfectly right, Other engines than >fritz sell less than 1% or so from what >fritz sells would be my guess? > >junior or tiger, man my whole team has never heart of those >chessprograms. All commercial chessbase makes is completely >about and around fritz. > >That much that nowadays even other progs are sold as fritz, take >pocket-fritz! > >>I believe that almost all of the chess players are not interested in >>buying new programs because they are beated by the free programs or by the >>the programs that they have and the number of customers >>for buying chess programs is smaller than the number that you believe. >>Uri > >This is your opinion, i must find the first person in netherlands who >is able to install for example crafty under winboard. > >That's horror, horror and another time horror. It's not *that* bad. It took me < 2 minutes, but I know my way around a PC. A friend of mine who is a NATURAL/ADABAS person and knows very little about PCs got WinBoard going with Crafty. I don't know how long it took him, but he didn't complain about it being difficult. I'm sure there are several thousand in the Netherlands who are using Crafty under Winboard. - Adam
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