Author: Odd Gunnar Malin
Date: 14:57:01 08/29/01
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On August 29, 2001 at 15:56:58, Robert Pawlak wrote: >On August 29, 2001 at 06:17:35, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: > >>On August 28, 2001 at 21:37:16, Robert Pawlak wrote: >> >>>Victor speaks the truth here. It was extremely difficult to beta test CA 6.X, >>>since many new functions were added. You test one, and then maybe a bug gets >>>introduced later. Pretty soon you end up trying to verify that everything works >>>with each new beta. This is extremely time consuming. >>> >> >>My opinion is that a patch should only deal with bugs and obvious, the new >>functions should go to the next release. >> > >I agree with this also. But I think Convekta is trying to make other customers >happy by adding requested features into 6.1 at no additional cost. Furthermore, >subsequent builds (since the original 6.1 release) have concentrated only on >fixing bugs. No new functions have been added. > >My opinion is also that some companies would have released 6.1 as a version 7 >(indeed, I think Convekta would have been justified in doing this). But instead, >they chose to release the new version as a free upgrade for owners of version 6. > Are you saying that we should be pleased that we get a patch? I don’t know any company that don’t release patches when there are bugs. If I buy a car and the air-condition is not working, I expect the seller to fix this and not put in a CD player instead. >>>Furthermore, not every beta tester has every engine. So you have further >>>narrowed the number of people that are even able to test for your problem. >>> >> >>Is all working well for you when you use the Crafty engine that comes with CA? >> > >Crafty is working fine for me. I use it occasionally for analysis. > Hmm.. I took my time to test it again (now on a new PC). There’s at least two thing that could be viewed I immediately. Missing analyses in analysis window. No inline comment in the game score (depth, time, evaluation). And if you turn on auto kibitzes, you will see that this too are missing. It could be the same bug for all tree problems. (I was playing with Blitzin from another PC against it) I bet the bugs are afraid of you (or your cat) and are hiding. >>>There has been a bug or two that I have experienced since the last build, but >>>overall I am overjoyed with CA 6.1, and it works 100% of the time for the >>>functions that I use every day. It really does a lot for comparatively little >>>$$$. >> >>Hopefully you are not a beta tester for finding bugs then. > >This I think you know the answer to already (based on my previous posts and the >"about" box in CA). Hopefully that last remark was not meant to be as sarcastic >as it sounds. But in any case, here is your answer: > No, I had not seen that (it was the credit box). I was thinking of you more that a combination of they that surrounds you (on the list). It was not sarcastic meant therefore I added **for finding bugs** to beta tester. I reacted on that you had only found one or two bugs, but I found more than that the first hour after downloading the patch and I am only a user. >I already spend a significant amount of free time testing CA (and some other >programs as well). What this means is using many functions that are totally >unimportant to me (or possibly not fully understood), and spending large amounts >of time documenting steps and processes to reproduce those bugs that I have be >able to find. All told, I probably spent at least 140 hours on this. > >Every single bug that I reported has been fixed. Every e-mail I sent was >responded to. > >Now, if you are willing to pay my salary while I do this testing, and give me >the means to fix anything I find, then I am more than happy to share in the >responsibility for any bugs that go unfound. > If you get to little pay for your work, maybe you should direct this to the employer and not to the customer. I just pay for the product and have no influence where the money goes. Odd Gunnar
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